i’m so old, i remember when going on the internet made you smarter.
@rstevens I was going to say less angry as well. Then I remembered how long dial-up modems took!
@rstevens And when the evil people didn't control everything, but were relegated to obscure newsgroups or message boards.
@rstevens It has been Eternal September for a long time now.
@rstevens Quick access to knowledge has made it possible to gain and store interesting and different things in our memory. Intelligence through the internet? Somewhat harder to teach.
@rstevens I have been on the net since 83 and I can’t recall such a time. But then, before the net there was Usenet with its alt hierarchy.

@MartyFouts @rstevens Nostalgia for the past is rooted in a rememberance of privilege without responsibility, when costs and consequences were externalized, when restrictions only applied to other, unseen and unknown, folks.

The belief that economics or knowledge or systems are neutral because the policies of the time happen to be favorable for the presenter.

In our youth when our parents provided for and shielded us.

tl;dr: Same.

@MartyFouts @rstevens There used to be a time when you had to be smart enough NOT to spend all day figuring out how to "decrypt" base64 to see the image someone just randomly posted to a comp group.

I learned this the hard way of course, because the Internet made me no smarter at all (except teaching me base64, C++, etc...). You can't even mention that old goat from christmas island now that the internet is so bottled up and safe :p

@rstevens yaourt voile com' (pas certain que ton traducteur te propose la bonne solution 🤨
@rstevens It's weird how us old people start remembering shit that never happened.
@rstevens I'm old too, I have a PC since 1991 and used it only for entertainment and PC didnt really made me any smarter ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@Xanth00 The fact you kept a PC alive for that long says a lot in itself. Also, that's really cool.

@rstevens

It still does. If you're daring to be smart.

@rstevens I am 89 and still learning, with ai i am dumber and smarter at the same time, what a wonderful world

@gary_alderson @rstevens I had someone try to use AI to understand my code for the first time a couple months back.

It didn't. He grew frustrated :p

le sigh

@rstevens

I'm so old, I remember having to be smart to actually get on the internet

@rstevens and this was when 💀

Whoever put up that web 1.0 page about how "quesadilla" is a false cognate with "queso" and actually derives from a Nahuatl word got me GOOD

@rstevens there was that one site where everything was possible.
@rstevens And then came the Forever September.
@rstevens
When I first saw the Web there weren't even images. It was all about text. The big platforms with their algorithms and video are destroying the internet.
@rstevens I remember actually having the thought that now that everyone in the world could instantly chat with anyone else anywhere else in the world, there couldn't possibly be anymore war. We'd all just see that we were more alike than different, and start to get along and resent the leaders who were pushing us into conflicts.
@bit101 If there was one thing I disliked about the 90s, it was the naivete that came about from the end of the Cold War, and how bitterly it juxtaposes with the post-9/11 world. It's hard to keep these same hopes about technology when unscrupulous groups with political leverage have found ways to achieve the opposite.
@rstevens I'm so old, I remember that going on the internet made you discuss how it can be used to make you smarter
@rstevens Even if this post was made half-jokingly, the early internet really did have a learning curve: there were no mobile apps, no algorithms, no video tutorials, not even any reliable search engines. Anyone who could help (i.e. a parent) was most likely learning with you. It was a matter of grasping brand new concepts such as how to input a URL, and navigating web spaces that weren't always intuitive.

@rstevens

From hardly any information to just enough information to too much information to misinformation and all in one generation.