@Daojoan in the early 2000s, my mom was sending me nonsense emails and I was replying with snopes links. In the 2010s, that basically changed to her posting nonsense on Facebook.
So many people don't bother fact checking at all.
@stellarsarah @Daojoan My Boomer sister-in-law (deceased in 2018) sent me (and 50 other people) an email of that sort back in 2003ish. I sent a friendly reply-to-all with a link to the Snopes article debunking the email. SIL wrote back a nasty message about how if I weren't such an ugly person I'd have more friends. ?
She was most firmly fundamentalist-conservative, and that was literally the last time I replied to an email from her or attempted to demonstrate facts to her in any way.
@courtcan ah, my mom never said anything negative in response to the Snopes debunking. I did start these corrections by emailing her individually and then eventually just hit reply all with my debunking after a few attempts. Then one of her friends who was in that email chain thought that my email address belonged to his daughter with the same first name and it got all awkward, but she did stop emailing me those kinds of things.
@courtcan @stellarsarah @Daojoan
I remember posting a snopes link on my (now former) sister-in-law's Facebook post about how Obama had banned some country song from ever being played on the radio because it was too patriotic or something. (It was a b-side from ten years prior, not so much banned as never on the radio to begin with.)
Her response was "Well I still believe in things like this."
???
I’m still like deer-in-the-headlights frozen since a colleague earlier this week just casually threw into a discussion about a complex, consequential, and costly legal question “well I checked on ChatGPT and it said…” as though that was some kind of mic drop.
I just wasn’t prepared for this. My jaw was on the floor.
Spoiler alert: ChatGPT was 100% wrong, like exactly the inverse of the true fact, of the complex, consequential, and costly legal question. A yes/no question where the answer was ‘no’ and ChatGPT said ‘yes’.
I bet they’ll keep using it though 🤷🏼♂️
@bike4climate @MercG @Daojoan I've seen this and hallucinated npm-packages too.
An the model? It was Gemini 2.5 pro. Not Claude but still...
I have reluctantly just to see what it says entered some very basic like entry-level questions regarding the industrial field in which I work, and the LLM “answers” would quite possibly get people injured, or fired, or sued, maybe all three.
What gets me is, what about the expectation that these things are supposed to, you know . . . work? I get the sense that people are soldiering through using AI despite having these experiences. It's like using AI is the end, not the means.
I hear you. A colleague recently said that he never experienced any „hallucinations“, as a matter of fact, he finds AI extremely useful. Example? ChatGPT gave him information (in no time!) that he could not find anywhere else… I can only assume that the present technologists stayed silent because there is a lot of pressure in the organisation to adopt AI.
There’s a lot of pressure in Jonestown to drink kool-aid.
@MercG
There is a quite simple explanation for this
LLMs are tuned to produce well-formed sentences with fine grammar
Its the "shape" of the word output that most people take as quality measure, it gives them the feeling that these words must come from an old welleducated gentlemen who knows what he writes
@Daojoan people rarely fact check things from Fedi, if they agree with them
Why would you be surprised about the rest of those?
Folks tend to have this attitude that people started out decent, then got caught up in lies online and turned into hateful monsters
I'm more of the opinion the lies just gave them ammunition for what they were already thinking
@ariaflame @Daojoan I love the AI answer in Google.
With almost every answer it shows me how much nonsense AI is fantasizing about.
@Daojoan it´s like people believe what they see in advertisting and take that as information....
also your post reminded me of people who were annoyed when they had to wash hands because of covid. and I was really shocked that this seemed something new to them.
@Daojoan What also worries me is that Chatbots give different answers when you ask the same question in different languages. Even the sources GPT mentioned were different.
There is really no I in AI.
@Daojoan a person very close to me doesn't trust Wikipedia because "anybody can write there" (in spite of it being one of the few big multi-party curated media), but will happily take as truth any random conspiracy theory someone relays on social media, even if it doesn't make any sense at all once you apply a drop of logic to it...
@Daojoan
Yeah that makes sense.
By the way who is still depending on ChatGPT for search results?
@Daojoan People do this in person ALL the time as well and I hate it so much
Notice when the people around you preface things with "I don't know if this is true, but someone told me that....".
Then notice people who tell you things WITHOUT that preface.
My M-i-L is the latter type. Fortunately she's surrounded by fact-checkers so the things she hears and says aren't usually complete nonsense.
But I did once tell her that I thought it was "morally wrong" to repeat a claim without clarifying whether you knew the claim to be true of your own knowledge.