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JPif your "beautiful, elegant, futuristic" huge ring-shaped HQ requires a truly colossal fuck-ugly parking garage that dwarfs it, it's not actually a very beautiful elegant futuristic HQ now is it
Erin@jplebreton good lord is it also like a 15 minute walk from the HQ to the parking garages
Barry Rowlingson@ChateauErin @jplebreton Oh hai elon here I have a tunnel-based solution for you
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ManniCalavera@ChateauErin @jplebreton My first thought also.
You drive for idk 30 minutes, park at your exclusive garage, and then take a hike to your office. But homeoffice is unproductive.
You drive for idk 30 minutes, park at your exclusive garage, and then take a hike to your office. But homeoffice is unproductive.
SupermoosieNot only that, by you want to talk to some on the other side of the office. You can't walk directly across the office to th like a normal building.
You need to walk round the circle.
Who ever is in charge doesn't know efficiency.
rileyslidey@SuperMoosie that was by design, they wanted to increase the chances of people from different teams bumping into each other and collaborating
More likely more people get worn out, feel like groundhog Day walking round and round a long corridor in endless circles. People will end up ignore others walking
João Santos@rileyslidey @SuperMoosie a bus shuttle from nearby population centres would also achieve the same.
@jmcs I don’t see how bumping into each other outside of the office in a bus is the same as doing it inside the office
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Christof Damian 💙💛@ChateauErin @jplebreton I bet they have a shuttle 😄
Frank Skornia@ChateauErin @jplebreton It is probably also a 15-20 minute walk from one side of the building to the other. Even if you decided to cut through the middle.
There are reasons we don't really have a lot of ring shaped buildings...
There are reasons we don't really have a lot of ring shaped buildings...
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enthraxxx@ChateauErin @jplebreton That's how Apple folks get to "close their rings" without having to give it a thought.
Juho MäntysaloReminds me of the "thin" laptops with power bricks the size of, well, bricks.
Stephan Schulz@iju @jplebreton Well, to be honest, the current MacBook Air does not need a power brick. It come essentially pre-charged for its 8 year life span. Or nearly so...
Trouble@jplebreton there's a multi level underground parking garage too. I hear getting in and out is terrible.
sebbe://@jplebreton Reminds of both Pentagon and NSA - I guess that is just Usian car-centric culture...
Richard Ayres@royalrex @jplebreton to be fair to the pentagon (!) it does have a metro station and a bus station right there. But, obviously public transport in the DMV suburbs is shite so everyone has to drive!
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Noodlemaz@jplebreton oh hey I remember being around there
You could see the nasty 'spaceship' from most of the surrounding hills.
You could see the nasty 'spaceship' from most of the surrounding hills.
Michael Ditsch@jplebreton I wonder if the huge roof areas are used for photovoltaic systems?
Gurre VildskäggWikipedia says it is! 17 MW from having a PV roof.
@f4grx @midide @jplebreton
Zooming around on google earth it does look like they do have the same covering as the main circle.
This is one thing they seem to have actually committed to fully.
@jplebreton Is it meant to be a 0 and 1 for binary?
Kid Mania@geospacedman @jplebreton true that in this business you are a one or a zero. Alive or dead.
CharlieG@jplebreton @Andres4NY “Designed by Apple *in California*”.
Roadskater, Ph.D.@jplebreton I have wondered how much $AAPL could have saved by contributing (a lot) to the area bus system instead of building a monstrous garage.
Klaas Pieter Annema@roadskater @jplebreton I’ve always wondered the same about Silicon Valley tech companies in general. It’s insane that Facebook, Google and Apple all run their own individual bus service.
Space Hobo@jplebreton Check out the great honking complex of extractor fans on the left of the lower car park structure. Just a giant 1970s window-unit air conditioner hanging off the side of your sleek nonsense.
Karma Sahne - R.I.P @natenom@jplebreton To the left, there are some apartment buildings. Guess how it looks in the streets between the buildings.
🐈⬛David Sommerseth@jplebreton perhaps it's a kind of a massive art installation ... Depicting the old technology (cars) vs the new technology (apple products) ... 🤪
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A circular office building in a green space.
I'd say it's a very 1960s design. Not futuristic at all.
I'd have done it radically differently, but then I'm an urbanist. Rectangular perimeter block in the north corner of the site, shaped by how the surrounding street grid could be extended across the site. At least 8 floors.
And get real transit access by (part)paying for a VTA LRT via the site. etc.
All the obvious stuff.
Jonathan HendryYou would prefer acres of ground level parking lots like Google?
psst: the photo is at an angle so it distorts the relative sizes of the buildings.
Ylönën@jonhendry @jplebreton How about a country that doesn't force all the work force to drive a car everywhere?
You could compare aerial photos of ASML HQ in Veldhoven, Netherlands. Much less parking for cars, protected cycling lanes built to Dutch standard all the way to where you need to go and park your bicycle, a bus to Eindhoven from a nearby stop (that doesn't suck nor is right next to a busy highway) every 10 minutes also during office hours...
You could compare aerial photos of ASML HQ in Veldhoven, Netherlands. Much less parking for cars, protected cycling lanes built to Dutch standard all the way to where you need to go and park your bicycle, a bus to Eindhoven from a nearby stop (that doesn't suck nor is right next to a busy highway) every 10 minutes also during office hours...
I'm not sure a nation's transportation preference is in the scope of a company's architectural choices.
Certainly it would be great if the Cupertino area was more bike-centric. But I think that was settled in favor of cars long before Apple built their new HQ.
abadidea@jonhendry the American mind cannot conceive of the secret third thing 😔
"Not cars"?
I'd much rather live and work in Chicago than Silicon Valley.
I think making Silicon Valley less car-centric is well beyond the scope of a company's architectural plans for the HQ.
Mark Shane Hayden@jonhendry @jplebreton OK then here is above view but I dunno I still think it looks like a lot. The longer of the 2 parkades is the same length as the diameter of the office building and both are thicker.
There are also no high capacity public transit options and no dedicated bike paths to and from the campus, and Apple has pretty strict work-in-office mandates so all that combined means this parking infrastructure is pretty well used.
Seems like an awful waste. That space could house a lot of people and other businesses, and would definitely generate a lot more tax revenue per km^2 for the city to support the infrastructure there (which would only be slightly higher to support residential and mixed use compared to the significantly higher tax base vs basically zero taxes from the parking garages)
This sort of urban development isn't sustainable any more really.
It looks like the parking lot across 280 is about 1/4-1/5 as big, for far far less than 1/4 as many cars, and no solar.
Public transit and bike paths would be great, don't get me wrong. I'd much rather live and work in Chicago.
@jplebreton interesting.
https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-park-new-campus-more-parking-than-offices-2017-4
I hate to defend Apple, but some of it seems to be because of the minimum parking requirements.
schuelermine@jplebreton isn't that because of these laws they have in the states that you have to build X amount of parking per Y amount of building
(roll m3tti)@jplebreton one more thing why i think work from home is the best. With this centralized solutions you have allready occupied twice as much space for your car.
Oliver SchafeldFunny how those parking garages never seem to be included in Apple's advertising photos. 🙂↔️
Here's another architectural vision from #Apple in circular (or tubular) #architecture 🫣🤭🕳️
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Lyle Solla-Yates@jplebreton Agreed, that was what Steve Jobs asked for in his last public appearance. https://www.planetizen.com/node/51750
wall-e@jplebreton they probably could've bullied San José into starting to build a subway system if they had insisted to build their HQ only with its very own subway station^^
Poligofsky 🇨🇦 .. 🚫🤖Why even get out of your car at all? Just merge the two buildings! Work from your car at the office. Drive right into your cubicle. Install a keyboard in the dashboard, and turn the windshield into a 4K heads-up display. Drive-in meetings. Drive-thru lunch counter.
stephen ryner jr. 🦉@8r3n7 @jplebreton that is the overflow parking. If you arrive early enough you park under your office and take the stairs or elevator up.
Kg. Madee Ⅱ.
Shaun Griffith@jplebreton Zip lines, both ways?
Imagine the fun getting into work every day! ("Hey! Don't spill coffee on everyone, OK?")
Also a good drop test for new iPhones.
Mikkel Selsøe Sørensen@jplebreton @layoutSubviews Imagine the commute time from the farthest end of the parking garage to your desk chair.
Marshall EubanksI can't see that HQ without thinking, "now, how do I make that into a particle accelerator?"
Knud JahnkeOh, I've never seen this view.
Good infrastructure would be if people could cycle there and part their bikes 3 floors underneath their office. But this is... not that.