Google is so sneaky. This prompt inside Gmail gives you three options. The two most visible options (number 1 is 'Try it now' and number 2 is 'Continue') basically mean 'Enable Gemini AI to write emails.' The third option cancels it which is hidden well. Google, you could do better than this. This is a perfect example of a dark pattern. For those who want AI to write basic emails can enable it but there is not need to do this kind of "shady" stuff.

#ai #privacy

This is what I call technical debt (not the exact situation but you get the gist of it) from using Gmail everywhere for personal use and projects. Now Google Drive and Gmail are part of my workflow because everyone else I interact with is also hooked into Google ecosystem because of Android phone or tablets, from governments to private citizens/bizness. It is really hard to get rid of them. But, I'm going to do it slowly. I don't want this kind of sneaky biz. The trustworthiness is long gone.
@nixCraft I agree and I think there is momentum starting for others to do similar
@WillDuckworth @nixCraft People have been sharing software alternatives with the #UnplugTrump hashtag . you should be able to find recommendations there for whatever you want to replace.

@nixCraft I've gradually pushed Google further out of my life. (I realize it's more difficult when collaborating with others.)

I killed Gmail, switched to DuckDuckGo, started running GrapheneOS, and navigate using OrganicMaps (or my standalone Garmin) when traveling. I'm still partially dependent on the Google Play store for paid apps, but I give them a lot less free data than I used to.

@analogfusion @nixCraft Same, I started switching away from Google about a year ago, and I feel like I did it just the right time. I did it just before I had to start putting up with their stupid AI stuff (completely by chance).

@wolf8428 @nixCraft My only question when encountering an AI-enabled device is "How do I turn it off?

I expend a ridiculous amount of energy fighting against AI creep.

@analogfusion @nixCraft If you can, it is so much better to just get away from services that shove AI down your throat.

Gmail shoves AI down my throat, but I only keep a Gmail account for when I need it. But it's not what I primarily use, so I don't have to deal with it that often.

@nixCraft I’m in the same boat. Trying to slowly unplug from all things google

@nixCraft My takeaway from this is not so much the use of dark patterns - which is becoming pervasive - it's that AI-related goop has to be force-fed to people to get an uplift on engagement.

It could well be that the AI industrial complex has spent a trillion dollars creating a product that no one really wants so they're hoping that ramming it down our throats will make a difference.

@markd @nixCraft

This take feels good.

@ReggieHere @markd @nixCraft it's the only thing that makes sense honestly. You usually don't have to force people to use things that they like

@markd @nixCraft

In finance, I think you'd call this "undisclosed risk".

@nixCraft the easiest short term solution is to use @thunderbird and not use web interface. I haven't logged in to my Gmail web for more than 6 months.

@rustickode @nixCraft @thunderbird

I'm surprised they haven't cut off IMAP access by now

@nixCraft oh yeah ms does that aswell last time i notice in the ms store when you want to download something they put the login prompt but you can close it without issues.
Maybe they changed that.
Or dell has some additional data collection in the oobe but you dont have to check the box to continue

@Jonly @nixCraft I would absolutely fall for this

Two buttons with different color schemes, one of them being obvious? The last few years trained me into thinking that one of these buttons will do what I want and the other won’t, and I’ll probably click the quiet one

But the gist of it is, that screen will scream two buttons with opposite effect and the little cross will not be on the table

@nixCraft I'm not sure I agree that "there is no need to do this shady stuff." They must show that AI usage is rapidly increasing to justify...{gesticulates wildly}. So they need to trick as many people as they can, all the time, forever. No one is working on making that dialog clearer, but someone is working on a way to hide the little "x" more completely.

@nixCraft Ehm, there is a need to do this. And that need is inflating your numbers so you're able to tell your shareholders that your users like Gemini AI.

Now they're able to claim everyone that hit either "Continue" or "Try it now" as an active user of Gemini AI...

@nixCraft As I've read elsewhere: at least one designer made this and at least one engineer implemented it. They and all the involved reviewers are assholes.
@klausman @nixCraft Enshittifiers can all eat my angry ass!

@nixCraft Glad I've long since gotten used to looking for that little X; sometimes even hitting Escape doesn't do it...

- and also that I'm effectively off Google (still have a Gmail but it's dormant, until I'm sure I've replaced all the Google logins, at which point it can f*ck off and die).

@nixCraft I've seen debate that "continue" could mean "continue without enabling". Regardless, this is a dark pattern, since the "try it now" is where you would typically have the "no" option.
@nixCraft
Yes! I've seen this several times with features other than AI.
@nixCraft Are you sure that number 2 is meant as 'Enable Gemini AI to write emails.'? To me it looks more like a normal next button with the intention to skip the topic. But nevertheless, the user design is really bad.
@nixCraft This is one of the reasons I am #degoogling ... Just mopping up the stragglers now on email. Need to look into how to degoogle my phone now, though planning to install lineage os on it without Google apps should probably do it.
@nixCraft Artificially juicing engagement numbers is so ingrained in Google company culture, not doing it would be like not breathing. It’s drilled into everyone to demonstrate “impact” or else. I remember the first time an executive used the phrase “default opt-in” unironically, it blew up the internal memes. Now it’s just business as usual.

@nixCraft "We are not evil." Do you remember that time?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_evil

Don't be evil - Wikipedia

@nixCraft I’m surprised they didn’t make the X in a lighter grey!

@nixCraft
Are you sure that option 3 turns off the AI?

Not trying to be facetious (well, maaaaaybe a little), yet do we trust Google to treat “no” as a “no”, having a rapist mentality about our data?

@nixCraft Well, Google's current motto not for nothing is "Do Be Evil"....... Yes, they dropped the "n't" years ago...
@nixCraft And the best part is #google doesn't even let you create accounts without a #gmail address.
@nixCraft 🤢 #NoAi #DeGoogle
I'm happier at Proton, at the moment. But AI is a malignant and metastatic cancer.

@nixCraft

A month ago, Gmail offered Gemini to me on my corporate account. I decided to try it. It was total garbage. I decided to disable it. Didn't found the option. A search explained why: there is no way to disable it once it has been enabled.

Gemini is the new Google+.

@jgg @nixCraft
That's not entirely fair. The TTRPG community actually found Google+ useful (and lost a chunk of its history when it went away). And Google+ wasn't a *threat* the way "AI" is, just a product most people weren't interested in.

@pteryx @nixCraft

I have no doubt that some people will find Gemini in Gmail useful, as some people liked Google+.

And who knows? Maybe some update makes it really useful some day.

The point is users should be able to decide if they want to keep it or not. They shouldn't be conned or coerced to do so.

That's the real reason most of people really hated Google+. Whatever the service is, nobody likes being forced to it.

@nixCraft maybe this is one of the advantages of having a Google business account. That feature is NOT turned on for my business / domain. By the way, it is a business of two accounts.
@nixCraft So glad I shifted to Proton. And deleted all my gmail.
@nixCraft Is option 3 “cancel” or “not now”?
@pointlessone @nixCraft
It's a very small X in the upper right corner of the dialog, away from the big buttons at the bottom right. Also, "Try it now" is colorized in an understated way similar to what "Not now" buttons usually look like, in order to try to trick people who always look for "Not now" buttons into clicking on it.
@nixCraft

Allways the same.
🤮🤮🤮