IncrExplBoyJan 21, 2025
Eugen Rochko
Just saw the headline "Elon Musk accused of making what appeared to be fascist salute" from CBC. Is mainstream journalism too cowardly to call a straight up, broad daylight nazi salute for what it is now? How can you still be in denial about it?
Jan 21, 2025 at 2:46amWeb
Show threadSkaveRat 🐀 Jan 21, 2025

@Gargron CNN calls it "strange salute".

Yeah, they are all too afraid of retaliation

Show threadaltruios phasmaJan 21, 2025
@skaverat @Gargron CNN is a paper tiger. Bought out by maga billionaire in 2021.
Show threadAlexander The 1stJan 21, 2025
@skaverat @Gargron I think this is the more likely reason; the press could see themselves being sued over the statement, so they are coaching it, even if it obvious to them what it actually is.
Show threadRowinSpeezJan 21, 2025
@AT1ST @skaverat @Gargron CBC is the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, who pull punches on this stuff to placate the right wing as well.
Show threadAlexander The 1stJan 21, 2025

@RowinSpeez @skaverat @Gargron I mean, they sound like the media entry being the *least* "Pulling their punches" on this, but admittedly they probably are likely trying to avoid an international lawsuit at this time.

Especially given recent statements by the Former President-Elect of the U.S.

Show threadSeth "Football Collector"Jan 21, 2025
@Gargron The oligarchs in America own the media and support the felon in chief and his cronies. They won’t say boo.
Show threadBrianJan 21, 2025
@Gargron I don’t know about in other countries but apparently here the states? Yes. Yes they are.
Show threadDr. Doro (she/her)Jan 21, 2025
@Slamchez @Gargron Same here in Germany, where we should be *very* aware of what that means...
Show threadBrianJan 21, 2025
@ditsch42 @Gargron If anyone in Europe has paid any attention to what’s happened in our elections with Twitter take notes and call it out. Fine him if you have to. I would argue the same with Facebook
Show threadHakan BayındırJan 21, 2025

@Slamchez @Gargron
The only newspaper I read here given the news as

"Did Elon Musk made a Nazi salute in inauguration speech? - The images sparked controversy."

And the image is spot on with his arm extended completely.

News body discusses the salute is understood as Nazi salute, and cites a tweet from PatriotTakes.

So, they didn't tell it straight out, but they said that he did a Nazi salute.

I'm OK with this.

Show threadMarcos D. AlvesJan 21, 2025
@Slamchez @Gargron Exactly the same in Brazil.
Show threadraphaelJan 21, 2025
@Gargron i mean, i just watched hart aber fair, and there was a group of largely smart people there (and some afd bozo) trying to debate trump’s supposed plans, as divined from his impulsive and semi-coherent ramblings, and what potential good might come from them.
Show threadWesJan 21, 2025
@Gargron In answer to your 1st question, "yes"
Show threadFreediverXJan 21, 2025
@Gargron
They're all cowards and traitors.
Show threadæ–Žè—€ăŸă ă—Jan 21, 2025
@Gargron I fully support you.
Mankind is stupid and history repeats itself, but we can only become a little less stupid when we realize we are repeating ourselves.
Show threadShawn WilliamsJan 21, 2025
@Gargron
Show threadVissJan 21, 2025
@Gargron yes. they fear retribution. with only so far that i've seen, wired and theguardian flat out calling it a nazi salute.
Show threadPatrick McLaughlinJan 21, 2025

@Viss @Gargron

Even Rollingstone — headline refers to a straight arm salute, and the text to a Roman salute.

Show threadPaul StebbinsJan 21, 2025
@Gargron I’m afraid you’re right. Both CDN and US media seem reluctant to call it what it is.
Show threadrobotbrainJan 21, 2025
@prstebbi @Gargron
He loves his chilling effect lawsuits and can afford them easily.
Show threadJKNJan 21, 2025
@Gargron Fear and denial is how we got here.
Show threadToot Ωncommon - SHUT đŸ‡ș🇾 DOWNJan 21, 2025
@Gargron I just had a professor of journalism full out affirm his unshakable belief that there is a fundamental first amendment right TO SPREAD DISINFORMATION!!! He holds a prestigious chair at a well-known journalism school. THE FOURTH ESTATE IS ALREADY DEAD, FOLKS!
Show threadarceuthobiumJan 21, 2025
@opethminded @Gargron if there’s a fundamental right to lie then all fraud statutes are unconstitutional. A fundamental right can’t be superseded by a mere commercial interest.
Show threadFallsMom đŸŒ»Jan 21, 2025

@Gargron

Cowardly is the right word. . . and #obeyinadvance

Show thread⁂Krafty⁂ #NoKingsJan 21, 2025
@Gargron just watched the context (which I generally try to do) and yep, that's a heil if I ever saw one
Show threadAlbert SimsJan 21, 2025
@Gargron For some odd reason, even with the money mainstream journalism has behind them, they are still afraid of the orange Jabba the Hutt. They are cowards, plain and simple.
Show threadBruce ElrickJan 21, 2025
@Gargron The Anti-Defamation League's tweeted statement is... I'm not sure whether it's disappointing or chilling.
Show threadGeorge Liquor, AmericanJan 21, 2025
@virtuous_sloth @Gargron Chilling. It's chilling. ADL is not to be trusted.
Show threadVolineJan 21, 2025
@Gargron
That’s how our Quisling’s do it.
Show threadstuxâšĄïžJan 21, 2025
@Gargron That is indeed what happened.. it’s just bizarre
Show threadGeoWendJan 21, 2025

@stux @Gargron

And the ADL is trying to give him cover....

Show threadBenareshJan 21, 2025
@GeoWend @stux @Gargron The tweet of the ADL that GeoWend referenced:
Show threadNathan A. StineJan 21, 2025
@Gargron Americans can't believe that it can happen here so they rationalize everything away.
Show threadVirginia HollowayJan 21, 2025
@stinerman I wonder if thats true, or if this is specific to “the media”. I haven’t talked to many people, but I bet most saw it as a Nazi salute. @Gargron
Show threadsudoer777Jan 21, 2025
@stinerman @Gargron A lot of them are Nazi supporters that are too brainwashed to admit it and even if they weren't brainwashed wouldn't care anyways
Show threadMaggie MaybeJan 21, 2025

@stinerman @Gargron how though? I live in New Hampshire and we have a known Nazi cell out by Keane and Claremont. It’s not anything that’s deniable because they are loud and proud.

They come to the capital whenever there’s a drag queen at a coffee shop, last time they gathered to harass people their dear leader died suddenly afterwards. It was a whole thing because even some of the Nazis were celebrating that he was gone and then the other Nazis were mad about it.

Show threadAsirenJan 21, 2025
@Gargron Unfortunately they’re scared of retaliation in the form of defamation lawsuits. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/14/trump-abc-stephanopoulos-settlement-00194391
Show threadRadio JusticeJan 21, 2025

@Gargron

Vichy is what Vichy does.

Show threadMyOpinionJan 21, 2025
@Gargron It is not confusing and it is not unclear. Musk decided to go full NAZI for the world to see.
Show thread℩ 🌍 Gus PoseyJan 21, 2025
@Gargron Like Han Solo frozen in carbonite, they are ensconced in cowardice.
Show threadKyle DöringJan 21, 2025

@Gargron https://ard.social/@tagesschau/113863348971016576

@tagesschau couldn't bring themselves to do it either.

tagesschau (@[email protected])

Liveblog zur AmtseinfĂŒhrung: ++ Trump will Kapitol-ErstĂŒrmer begnadigen ++ Noch am Tag seiner AmtseinfĂŒhrung hat US-PrĂ€sident Trump die Begnadigung seiner AnhĂ€nger an, die an der ErstĂŒrmung des Kapitols beteiligt waren. Tech-MilliardĂ€r Musk zeigt eine Geste, die an einen Hitlergruß erinnert. Die Entwicklungen im Liveblog. âžĄïž https://www.tagesschau.de/newsticker/liveblog-amtseinfuehrung-dienstag-100.html?at_medium=mastodon&at_campaign=tagesschau.de #Liveblog

ARD.social
Show threadThe DoctorJan 21, 2025
@Gargron They're afraid of retaliation.
Show threadROBJan 21, 2025
@Gargron just deactivated my X acct for good!
Show threadMursalinTJan 21, 2025
@Gargron is history repeating itself? It started as a democracy back than as well. Are people forgetting what happend or is it just to long since, and the world wants a reset to chaos again? Just thinking.
Show threadLeto FregarJan 21, 2025
@MursalinT @Gargron we are at the point where the original #nazis are something everyone knows only from stories. Some still from relatives that experienced that era first hand, but most only from school and movies.
The most forgotten facts? That #germany had been a #democracy before the take over, that #hitler was elected by the Reichstag, and that this was only possible due to others thinking he was harmless and forming a coalition with his party...
Show threadVon XylofonJan 21, 2025
@MursalinT @Gargron Maybe Madison Square Garden was already booked.
Show threadThe Febrile MuseJan 21, 2025
@Gargron They are cowards.
Show threadJohnđŸ„›Jan 21, 2025
@Gargron ...not surprised...they're all still active on the site.
Show threadSterling Hammer Jan 21, 2025
@Gargron cowardly indeed. Doing the same crap they’ve been doing since 2015.
Show threadGizmokid2005Jan 21, 2025
@Gargron the ADL is also defending him, so let's not pretend that it's just for-profit media, it's the whole machine from top to bottom. Bought and paid for.
Show threadjosh g.Jan 21, 2025
@Gargron looks like their video clip only shows the first of the two salutes as well, making it easier to dismiss as 'accidental'. pretty damn disappointed
Show threadCardboard RobotJan 21, 2025
@Gargron “Corporations are people my friends”
Show threadI Should Be ElsewhereJan 21, 2025
@CardboardRobot @Gargron I love to say to people in my life when this comes up, if we consider corporations people for legal purposes, then for psychological purposes they're all sociopaths 😅
Show threadStephen Elliott~BuckleyJan 21, 2025

@Gargron

The c/a/n/a/d/a project: nice, but not kind

#antifa #bcpoli #cdnpoli #fascism

Show threadć…šçŸ„ć…šèƒœć€§ć…ˆç”ŸJan 21, 2025
@Gargron To You, the People! Unfortunately, since 1993 article 16a of our constitution consists of more than one sentence and is hence almost unintelligible. But it was originally intended for situations such as now. https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_gg/englisch_gg.html#p0093
Basic Law for the Federal Republic of Germany

Show threadUrzlJan 21, 2025
@Gargron Because they're in on it. He's daring them to say anything about it, secure in the knowledge they're all complicit or at least too gutless to say otherwise.
Show threadPatrick McLaughlinJan 21, 2025

@Gargron

And the ADL is trying to pretend that what we can all see (twice) wasn’t what we saw, too.

Cowards and collaborators, all of them.

Show threadToni M.Jan 21, 2025

@Gargron

Following Alice Weidel's argument that Hitler was a communist, this wasn't a fascist, but communist salute (?)

Just thinking.

Show threadFink Jan 21, 2025
@mad @anlomedad @Gargron So from the perspective of the US, that's even worse? *scnr*
Show threadToni M.Jan 23, 2025

@fink @anlomedad @Gargron

Even better.

POTUS Musk is a "big fan of Putin".