Eugen RochkoHave you already deleted or are planning to delete your Threads/Instagram/Facebook/WhatsApp account in light of recent policy changes? (If you have or had one)
Yes
No
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Mike Fraser@Gargron No because I never used those services to begin with. I have accounts but they're dormant and always have been.
zaire the bored genderfuck
EricRogerGarcia
Tristen Grant
[empty]@Gargron I still use FB authentication but haven't posted on it in years
@allanb Now is the time to delete then.
Kay 
@Gargron not deleting yet as I admin too many groups. Following other group leaders into other spaces as they set them up, e.g. into Discord for group chats
Olivier Mengué
Sven (retired)@dolmen As far as I'm aware, Discord doesn't own a big chunk of the entire online ad market and also doesn't try to collect and use all data they possibly can across different websites, apps and services. :)
Not saying they're good or anything, but Meta has been in its own category of evil for a while now with very few competitors in that regard. At least in the online/tech world.
David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)@Sven @Kay Discord is evil in its own way. But the common thing is they are both private companies that run social network and that aims to make profit, while users are not paying directly for the service they get. They are walled garden where you don't have control of the content you posted, as they can change their usage policy at anytime and this applies retroactively to old content you may have posted 20 years ago.
@dolmen Fair criticisms of Discord.
Not really that relevant to my wish to stay connected to a positive community of people online. Very much a matter of less bad choices, not good ones.
@dolmen Totally true and I even acknowledged this in my reply. It's just a totally different discussion than the initially disputed statement. 😅
(Also, for what it's worth, their main source of income is from Nitro subscriptions, so there is some direct cash flow.)
@dolmen @Gargron I've yet to find a perfect platform that everyone will agree to join.
Is Discord less offensive than Facebook? Time will tell.
In this case I'm following a group that I find positive so I'm dialling down my sensitivity meter. I've left Discord and groups in the past over what I found to be tolerance of offensive content.
It's also easier to switch social media type platforms than mainstream media or even society in the real world. So much I'd change if I could!
Paul Versluis@NoOnesRival @dolmen @Gargron @matrix As one member of the group of over 2,000 that the admin is encouraging to move, I'm not going to rock the boat.
Years back I co-moderated a Yahoo group. The other Admin wanted to try Facebook. I said no, poor security etc. She shifted the group anyway.
I joined Facebook to help her and the group. She decided I'd been right and left. By that time hundreds of members had shifted. I stuck with that group. I'm still moderating it about 15 years later.
Nathan
Heatmizer_626
i looove the fediverseTrue, but is there a #fediverse alternative?
Eldritch kcarruthers@Gargron I’m in the process of deleting. Threads and Instagram are gone. Just waiting for my download to delete FB.
MOVED -> @@Gargron ive already deleted whatsapp, never had threads. instagram i cant really get rid of because its the only place local music artists + activists post, and facebook is the only place around here with a decent second-hand market. the goal is definitely to delete them all, i just need other people to as well before it really makes sense.
ru@Gargron I want to. But everyone I know uses these things, keeping me stuck there. Its like if the water and electricity company suddenly became evil (well, in this case explicitly, unabashedly delighted to stop pretending to not be)
Anton HunterReminds me about Google dropping their motto/slogan #DontBeEvil
Heliograph@Gargron never had accounts with them but definitely would delete them asap if I had
Jay Thoden van Velzen ☁️🛡️
@Gargron i never had an account on any of these services
Phil Knall@Gargron I would (except possibly instagram) but a lot of work contacts are on there so realistically I can't.
jdotcom@Gargron I did in 2016 after the Cambridge Analytica scandal
standev
Crispy Gnome Chomsky@Gargron Does having exited 4 years ago because of the Cambridge Analytica scandal count?
2xfo
Michael Kohlman@Gargron Yes, but with a big Asterix.
I'm already exporting my FB data for my two "public" FB pages (one photography and one career) ahead of a likely walk-away, and I am looking hard at Friendica as a probable home.
My personal/private FB page, which is close friends and family, will likely remain as it unfortunately is the place for critical information-sharing between that group.
Adam R. Wood@NoRomBasic @Gargron [insert image of Asterix and Obelix with their sizes swapped here]
...Sorry, couldn't resist.
Mark Smith@Gargron it’s a hard call. My church and family responsibilities may require me to stay silently
Jessie Nabein 
@markrsmith this is the unfortunate reality, these services provide the various social connections for many folks...
David Zappelli@Gargron Yes, I requested the Facebook and Instgram information, and I just received the download today. I hardly used Instagram, and I limited my activities on Facebook, never allowing it to become the "Facebook of everything".
I was already disliking Facebook before the MAGA takeover. "Enshittification" is real. I saw serious problems all the way back to 2014 or so, before Trump began to ran, and the Tea Party was taking off, and so on. Managing Pages, groups, and even advertising got to be absolutely crazy, and burdensome. I started seeing serious issues with ads, and bona fide users or accounts, etc. especially when I was also managing a NationBuilder website, which gave me lots of insight between social media accounts, emails, duplicate accounts, phoney accounts, etc.
Over time, Facebook has been taking away our powers in several ways than one, and anyone who keeps investing in it, especially in terms of dollars, is foolish, in my opinion.
Ryan Frederick@Gargron I deleted my FB account when I saw things like this coming way back in 2009. I've never looked back.
piku 
minor!@Gargron i would if whatsapp wasn't my only means of communication with my close cousin+a few other frens
there are circumstances that cause him to be unable to use signal or smth
there are circumstances that cause him to be unable to use signal or smth
crabbypup@Gargron
My fb account had been dormant for a year, and I hadn't logged into it, so I deleted it entirely yesterday.
I sent messages to people I only contact on messenger that I actually care about talking to so they could find me elsewhere, and I'm deleting messenger at the end of next week.
lupus_blackfurAnd I say no...
Only because I've never had any of those accounts.
Can't delete what I've never had and never will have.
Stephen@Gargron No, but it just reinforced my thoughts on those platforms and my desire to limit my time with them.
Steve Gisselbrecht@Gargron
Never joined.
Never joined.
Ivana@Gargron I would but I keep contact with people overseas, also admin a dog group that’s a kind community. Have visited people from that group in several countries. 🤷🏻♀️
Paul Chambers🚧@Gargron The 2012 election was the red line for me. Not long after, in early 2013, I said goodbye for good. Never had a threads, WhatsApp or IG account.
Nagaram
Antique Digital@Gargron I’m giving it a trial run having the apps uninstalled to see how it feels. Facebook is easier, I have some genuine connections on Instagram which could be difficult to sustain outside of that context but that’s how I felt about Twitter and I shut that down last year so 
Tim Bray@Gargron A couple branches of my family and a music jam club are on Meta properties. Letting go would be very painful.
Jeff Atwood@codinghorror @Gargron The EU approach is interesting, keeping a close eye on how that goes: https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-2019-2024/europe-fit-digital-age/digital-markets-act-ensuring-fair-and-open-digital-markets_en
Leon Cowle@timbray @Gargron Immigrant to the other side of the world here. Keeping up with the entire extended family back there would be near impossible without FB. Many extended family members also spread out worldwide. FB keeps us all in contact, seeing how we age, how our kids are growing up, remembering loved ones now gone, celebrating milestones, etc. It’s possible to do this for close family without FB (and we do!), but not for hundreds-strong extended family. So I will stay.
Similar for WhatsApp. My sister lives in a country that blocks Facetime! So WhatsApp it is.
Similar for WhatsApp. My sister lives in a country that blocks Facetime! So WhatsApp it is.
Greg Vernon@leoncowle @timbray @Gargron
I moved to Switzerland from Seattle 20 years ago, and I have way too many friends and family members on FB to leave it. I would love to somehow move elsewhere, but at FB I am locked in, and it's where I have to stay. While Mastodon, and to some degree, Bsky are replacing Twitter, they are not close to being a replacement for FB.
I moved to Switzerland from Seattle 20 years ago, and I have way too many friends and family members on FB to leave it. I would love to somehow move elsewhere, but at FB I am locked in, and it's where I have to stay. While Mastodon, and to some degree, Bsky are replacing Twitter, they are not close to being a replacement for FB.
fionaschlachter
JD@Gargron I deleted mine nearly a decade ago. Glad others are doing the same finally. 🖖