Wealth of Elon Musk
2012: $2,000,000,000
2024: $273,000,000,000

Wealth of Jeff Bezos
2012: $18,400,000,000
2024: $207,100,000,000

Wealth of Mark Zuckerberg
2012: $17,500,000,000
2024: $200,000,000,000

Federal Minimum Wage
2012: $7.25
2024: $7.25

Three words: tax the rich.

@Strandjunker How did someone manage to invent a "federal minimum wage" and at the same time fail to index link it in the obvious way? Were they deliberately setting it up to fail?
@TimWardCam @Strandjunker there would likely be pushback by the obvious suspects to indexing to inflation, but I think it'd be great to index it to congressional pay (or perhaps congressional staff pay). So many of the ones who'd object to it rising automatically would also *never* consider turning down a raise for themselves.

@fencepost @TimWardCam @Strandjunker ooh, that's an interesting thought.

How about this variant: minimum wage is 1% of the highest earner's wage or owner's income of whatever company or organization work for, whichever is greater.

It would have a floor of current minimum wage, so won't kick in until the top income is >$1,500,000/yr.

I first wrote 10%, but I like the symmetry of "Ok you can be a one percenter but it's going to cost you 1%", #1p_for_1p

@[email protected] they could get away with it there wouldn't even be a minimum wage just flat out slavery where workers live on the job sites.But who knows what's coming if they get their greed king back in there.
@TimWardCam @Strandjunker they didn't. Reagan did his best to wreck it.
@Strandjunker Four words: massively tax the rich.
@Strandjunker it doesn't matter how much they are taxed. they will have their outs. those outs should be eliminated, and the tax system should be made more fair. the realistic tax for middle class is around 40% while listed is 35% but they actually pay around 15% or less. getting rid of loopholes will raise billions or more without changing that tax rate and reduce complications for everyone.

@Strandjunker Agreed! And yet when people try to organise a European Citizen's Initiative called 'Tax the rich' it only receives 349.674 out of the 1.000.000 needed signatures: https://www.tax-the-rich.eu/ .

So either:
1) People agree on taxing the rich, but don't care enough about changing it to become politically active

2) Those who find this topic important don't know how to bring together people and movements along a common goal.

Tax The Rich

Nous voulons un impôt européen sur les grandes fortunes pour financer la transition climatique et sociale et aider les pays victimes des dérèglements climatiques.

Tax The Rich

@erikkemp - You can't use a system that is owned by the rich to constrain the activities of its owners.

The pandemic showed us what to do. If even a significant fraction of us were to simply stop working for even a couple of weeks, their system would hemorrhage trillions of dollars.

@gpilz @erikkemp Agreed. And that may be the only thing that will be able to stop their continued and accelerating accumulation of wealth.

@erikkemp
It it more likely option 3;
People don't want to tax the rich because they think they are going to win the lottery and become rich.

@Strandjunker

@nikatjef @erikkemp @Strandjunker Yep a lot of fools chasing the delusional fool's gold.
@gumpfloyd @nikatjef @erikkemp @Strandjunker yeah, the whole "Americans don't view themselves as working class, they view themselves as temporarily embarrassed billionaires" thing is a huge part of the problem, it explains so much of American behavior.
@Strandjunker 4000 Minimum wage, three words too, and also set maximum wage, 3 word they hate more than tax, because taxes are so easy to avoid, bahamas is right on the corner.
@Strandjunker And yet the billionaires say the working class are the stupid ones for borrowing money.

@Strandjunker

Welcome to the 1700s!
But don’t worry, your children can work for minimum wage too!

@Strandjunker Better yet, prevent the rich.
@MichaelPorter @Strandjunker Good point. Although fair, its bad optics to take away money the rich "earned". People get nervous about their own savings.
Transfotming the system so a few cannot earn that much, but a majority earns more, would be more popular. Raising the minimum wage by A LOT would be a good start. Democratizing the workplace next, finish up by Socializing the means of production. Easy peasy.
@dacig @Strandjunker Piece of cake 😄
We’re just fighting the Golden Rule… “Those with the gold, make the rules.”

@Strandjunker

Four words: INCREASE THE MINIMUM WAGE!

@terag1e @Strandjunker Indeed. In Netherlands, the Minimum wage per hour
2012: € 8.35
2024: € 13.68

It’s still not much, but at least it gives you a change at living

@Strandjunker @onepict tax wealth.

Tax individual wealth. Tax corporate wealth. Tax anything that isn't creating jobs or cycling money back into the economy.

(remember when companies had massive R&D departments inventing cool stuff and employing people, just to offset corporate tax? Let's have more of that)

@Strandjunker Do you have a source for those numbers?
@Strandjunker If anyone 'wonders' why we are all heading towards a WWIII... #justsaying
@Strandjunker yeh. Hard to believe they did something exceptional or work harder when you put it that way. And anyway, capitalism works best when the poor have money

@Strandjunker
Song: Tax the Rich!

The politicians say there's not enough to go around
So they're laying off the teachers, and the schools are shutting down
Will our children live as serfs, suited only for their chains?
If we love them, we had better use our brains

With government turned upside-down, the money flows uphill
And it makes its tired journey there against the common will
Now we need that money back, and our lives are on the line...

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Tax the Rich by SFSC

Tax the Rich - The unequal distribution of wealth is perhaps the most significant single cause of conflict within our society. 'Tax the Rich' draws attention to this unjust distribution and calls for a redistribution of wealth through progressive tax reforms. #progressive #political #social #diversity #philosophical #ethical

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@Strandjunker Thank you for putting out this data.
@Strandjunker it's your fault that you're poor. Nobody else.

@Strandjunker

Taxing anyone doesn't make you more happy. ;-)

Hug yourself, love your family & friends and be thankful not to be stuck in a war-zone or alike.

Being thankful for what YOU have, makes you free.

#ThankFull #freedom #peace #

@Strandjunker People who work for the rich won't tax the rich.

@Strandjunker Between the three of them, they could give half a million people 1 million dollars each and still have billions.

Except none of that money actually exists. It's all in stocks, many of which are probably just numbers that have been sold and loaned out a billion times in the last second alone...concurrently.

@Strandjunker

... or put the means of production into working-class hands.

Not too hard. Get it right, Andrea!

@Strandjunker Wealth of Vladimir putin:
In excess of $700 billion by virtue of stealing an entire country and all its resources.
His wealth isn't mostly on paper like Musk et al.
It is in the form of diamonds, gold, and cash.

Eat your heart out, Elon.

Vote for Harris.

Comments on the US economy:

https://medium.com/@colingajewski/americas-coolie-economy-feaf95b0303c

America's Coolie Economy.

The concept of a "Debt-Based Coolie Economy" refers to a systemic and intentional design within the U.S. economy that relies heavily on…

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@Strandjunker Tax the rich or we'll eat the rich.

@Strandjunker
Eat.

We can't tax them enough to matter, but we can minimize their ability to harm anyone else.

@Strandjunker

So etwas wurde klassischerweise durch eine währungsreform gelöst (alles Geld wird wertlos, neues wird ausgegeben) oder durch ein pogrom (da Christen keinen Zins erheben dürfen, waren die Bankiers ja alle jüdisch).

@Strandjunker how much DID each of these super rich pay in taxes during these 12 years on these gains in wealth?

If they claim to be taxed fairly it should be the same sum like any other working citizen with a decent income of 100k/a has, too.

@Strandjunker Even the state with the biggest minimum wage increase since 2012 is only a 50% increase.
@Strandjunker Let’s grab the pitchforks!!! Eat the rich 🥹🍽️
@Strandjunker and increase minimum wage, right?

@Strandjunker Some perspective:

Should #Musk give away $1,000,000 per day for 14 days, that would leave him with $272,986,000,000…

@Strandjunker and everyone on this discussion: What is the point of all this verbal venting without a clear actionable path towards a fairer economy? You are conversing in an echo chamber. What are we/you going to DO about it? Vote blue and try to pressure a Harris administration for taxation changes? Bernie Sanders has demonstrated that about 20 to 30 percent of registered Democrat supporters might support such demands. But Bernie is getting old. How will YOU make it happen?