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Quixoticgeek"we can't have buses cos we live in a city that was designed in medieval times, and the roads are too small."
Dijon: hold my mustard.
fak@quixoticgeek that's so cute.
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@quixoticgeek Does that have a bumper bar along the side? I love it!
Jonathan B ✈️🪄👨🏻💻@toni @quixoticgeek I thought that, but it’s the tape from the tensabarrier demarking the seating area I think.
Primo@quixoticgeek cute bus!
Richard Michael Blaber@quixoticgeek @DoomsdaysCW This bus is still made of metals, & CO2 was still emitted in its production. If the electricity it runs on is not renewable, it will also entail CO2 emissions.
@rmblaber1956 @DoomsdaysCW yes. But this is France so most of the electrons in it battery came from uranium.
Ultimately while yes it does use materials to make. It's better than the several dozen wank panzers it otherwise replaces.
@quixoticgeek @DoomsdaysCW Nuclear electricity isn't much better than the fossil fuel variety, IMHO, & neither is good. However, I don't disagree.
DoomsdaysCWSome people-powered vehicles would be cool. Like pedicabs and rickshaws. @rmblaber1956 @quixoticgeek
@rmblaber1956 @quixoticgeek @DoomsdaysCW although judging by the number of turbines that are dotted all over France, they’re doing pretty well at renewables too. Not sure why the original post warranted the unsolicited reply about emissions etc. though, it just seemed to be an observation that public transportation in older cities is still possible. And a picture of a cute little bus.
@rmblaber1956 @DoomsdaysCW ultimate a 1gw nuclear power plant produces about a similar volume of nuclear waste in a year as a typical household bin. Which can then be packaged up and put somewhere safe. That's considerably better than pumping co2 into the atmosphere.
All the metal on that bus can be recycled almost limitlessly. Likewise the glass. The technology is almost mature to do that completely in a zero emission way that runs on renewable energy. Is it perfect today? Still good tho.
Oh, don't get me started on nuclear waste storage. Best not to create it in the first place! @quixoticgeek @rmblaber1956
@DoomsdaysCW @rmblaber1956 yes. But it's a lesser of two evils thing here. And if I shouldn't get you started. Maybe don't reply to my toots.
David S (inactive)@quixoticgeek @DoomsdaysCW @rmblaber1956 "I'm starving but I wont eat this bread because it doesn't have the jam which is arriving next month, so I'm going to eat this mud instead"
I mean, if you want to volunteer to store nuclear waste at hour house, that's your business (and your neighbors). But too many times, it is stored on or near #IndigenousLands. I suppose deep underground storage could be a solution, but again, we're kicking the can down the road for future generations to deal with. Not to mention transporting nuclear waste to storage areas. Imaging how bad a rail accident involving that would be... @quixoticgeek @rmblaber1956
Trammell Hudson@quixoticgeek I love riding on nuclear powered trains that use both fission and fusion!
M.S. Bellows, Jr.@rmblaber1956 @quixoticgeek @DoomsdaysCW Honestly curious: what's your point? That electric buses are bad and therefore shouldn't be manufactured?
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Marc Rothera@quixoticgeek Dijon should be taken as an absolute benchmark for urban planners.
First time I visited it was a stinky car trap with vehicles all the way up the main shopping street / tourism centre, nasty.
Since then, it's been pedestrianised, got a decent docked bike hire system and an amazing tram network. These little busses are just the cerise on the gatteaux.
R@quixoticgeek It's like a real-life cartoon. (bustoon?)
AngelMountaineer@quixoticgeek spotted them in Avignon as well, they look so cool to ride!
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tops@Eetschrijver @quixoticgeek cute Limousines :-)
P. S. F.@quixoticgeek There are small buses in Madrid like that one, used mainly in the old city centre where streets are very narrow.
Article in spanish: https://www.eldiario.es/madrid/somos/malasana/quien-usa-el-bus-mas-lento-de-madrid-hablan-los-viajeros-de-la-linea-gratuita-002-de-la-emt_1_6413939.html
pandouilla roux@quixoticgeek same in Rennes, we have this tiny electric thing, very great
Jay@quixoticgeek What’s great is that they don’t even run on electricity, but rather mechanical power: you just drag them backward a few times and let ‘em rip.
Sam@quixoticgeek And they're also electric. That's marvelous! I wonder how long it takes to power up a bus like this and its range. I would love to see these roaming the streets of Tuscany.
_maleficentgirlthe lil one looks like it would squeak if you'd squeeze it a bit 🤗
Jos Dingjan@quixoticgeek Firenze similarly has tiny buses running down tiny streets.
Salva@quixoticgeek same happens in Bayonne 🙂
AllyPally@quixoticgeek These wee buses in Dijon are great. And free!
@quixoticgeek Dijon: hold my mustard.😂 😂 😂
3dcandy@quixoticgeek mustard been an inspired idea that
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Avignon also has a very cute solution. What I liked was that they had several set routes for the little buses and you could flag them down and hop on or off to get around the city centre.
https://www.caradisiac.com/Avignon-la-Baladine-100-electrique-fait-sensation-verte-3054.htm
Avignon : la Baladine 100% électrique fait sensation verte
Je vous ai indiqué récemment que la Communauté d＇Agglomération du Grand Avignon a lancé deux nouveaux mini-bus électriques baptisés ＂OREOS＂ (voir article). Sachez que le centre-ville d’Avignon dispose aussi d＇un autre type de transport en
I also need to point out that all the rentals we saw in Avignon were small European-sized SUVs that were entirely the wrong size and shape for an old city centre. We witnessed a rental at a cross-roads and the only street they were legally allowed to go down was quite narrow. They proceeded slowly and got stuck. We did not wait to see how the situation was resolved because we had the Palace of Popes to go look at (highly recommend!)
rag. Gustavino Bevilacqua💯 for the "hold my mustard" 🤣 🤣 🤣
Jen@quixoticgeek every now and then someone here says that more busses on quiet routes isn't worth doing environmentally because you're just moving air, and I'm over here like, "run smaller busses?" But apparently that's somehow impossible because busses only come in one size. It's almost like gaslighting over the 23-seaters I rode regularly as a kid. And apparently nothing can be done about busy routes being packed because double deckers aren't real.
@JetlagJen a bus only needs to have a 21% occupancy to be more efficient than a car. The moving empty air argument is so flawed.
Wilfried Klaebe@JetlagJen The iconic VW "Bus" has eight passenger spaces. I remember 15- and 25-seaters. I know of Setra buses with 31 rows of seats (which suggests about 120 passenger seats). There's some size for every need. And if the biggest size is not enough, just run more.
Léon@quixoticgeek HOW CUTE IS THIS!!!
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@zekounet @sgtpepere they certainly caen make it work!
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Marcos Dione@quixoticgeek Trieste, Italia also has (or used to) some of similar size, but I can't find the photo :(
Cymaphore@quixoticgeek Of course the french with their overly huge busses.
Vienna be like: Hold my Kaiserschmarrn.
Thomas Mayer@quixoticgeek
and those are free to ride.
and those are free to ride.
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In Ljubljana the buses go where you want them to in the pedestrian area. So much for "but some people must drive to the doctors and cannot walk so far" https://www.visitljubljana.com/en/visitors/travel-information/getting-around/kavalir-getting-around-the-city-centre-by-electric-car/
In Ljubljana the buses go where you want them to in the pedestrian area. So much for "but some people must drive to the doctors and cannot walk so far" https://www.visitljubljana.com/en/visitors/travel-information/getting-around/kavalir-getting-around-the-city-centre-by-electric-car/
Amro has been@quixoticgeek That took a sharp turn