@cjust A "free" browser from a company that makes money on using your data to create targeted ads, what can go wrong?
@cjust Oh god, not my spellcheck history

@Thatonepersonwithaface @cjust

Doh. I never thought about that. Yeah, that'd be more embarrassing.

@Thatonepersonwithaface @cjust I was about to say ā€œCan’t you just type that into Wordā€ but then I thought of how many words Word doesn’t recognize and also remembered Recall. Ugh.
@WhiteCatTamer @cjust My feed would be spammed with "bourgoses restarant refridgerators" and I'm terrified of icemakers
@Thatonepersonwithaface @cjust Mine would be listing after listing of bureus…burreaus…beureus…dressers.

@WhiteCatTamer @cjust "Those tall wooden things that you swear will hold clothes but when you try to clear em out, you find brass knuckles, dildos, and composition books"?

Yep, well familiar. Found a derringer I swore I lost wedged between an old dress and my overalls earlier today.

@Thatonepersonwithaface @WhiteCatTamer @cjust you are now the most interesting person on Mastodon. I am taking lost derringer, old dress, and overalls at face value, and will await all future posts with rapt attention.
@cjust stop using Chrome. everyone. stop. please
@cjust incognito modes in browsers should never have been equated with privacy to begin with. all they do is scrub local history

@tibi @cjust

Exactly this! Incognito mode came about for those guys and gals trying to keep family members from knowing what they were up to. That's all it ever did.

Back in the day before incognito was a thing you learned how to use a portable web browser off of an encrypted thumb drive. No cookies and no cache for snooping parents.

To keep things truly private you still need the encrypted drive but need to be using Tor.

Then you need to burn your house and the internet to the ground.

@tibi @cjust when I worked on a browser (which luckily recedes into history ever further) the private mode we built had truly ephemeral data. Pages loaded never hit the disk, no writes were performed to any persistent store, and any and all telemetry was disabled across the entire product while it was enabled.

Seeing malfeasance like this from my peers is rage-inducing and strips away user trust.

@[email protected] @tibi @cjust By peers do you mean the people on Chrome or at Google? AFAIK the client did what it said it would. The problem was that servers can and do still collect data about people that use private browsing and correlate it with other data

@dotproto

@tibi @cjust the trick there remains making private modes look and feel the same as normal browsing to the site that's loaded. APIs leak that constantly, like writing to a persistent store failing or otherwise.

At that point, it's a matter of public policy and laws around data collection.

@tibi @cjust To be fair, easily scrubbing local history is incredibly important for people in for example abusive domestic situations.
@tibi @cjust it literally says Google still collects the data on every incognito tab you open
@cjust Should people need more encouragment to just use Firefox.
@cjust this was uncovered a couple months ago, but I’m glad that it is being addressed!
@cjust
"Incognito mode" never claimed to be especially privacy-friendly though 🤨
It s just about keeping no local history.. that's it. Always have been.
@kiudecan @cjust We (as tech people) know. The issue is the naming. The non-tech people see Incognito and they think Incognito... If they called it "No history mode" that's different.
@okias @kiudecan @cjust I wonder how it was translated into languages other than English?
@cjust Firefox

@gistinker @cjust except #Firefox recently added "Website Advertising Preferences" that some say should be disabled because it allows (anonymized?) surveillance.

Firefox also added "experiments" on shopping. experience tracking that those same people say should be explicitly disabled in about:config.

#SurveillanceCapitalism

@cjust OH NO Google“s keeping secretly personal data who would have thought
@cjust
And the best part of that settlement is that Google already sold that data to third party. šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø
@cjust I thought it was common knowledge that "incognito mode" merely left little to no record on the machine you use it with. The other end of the line doesn't care about what you delete on your end. It probably doesn't even know. Or care.
@cjust
Do you have a link to a source? Thanks!
@cjust @rmondello If you want an actual private private mode, I believe your only choice (or one of a very small number of choices) is Safari.
@cjust
Reminds me of what someone posted some month/years somewhere herešŸ˜‚