@cjust incognito modes in browsers should never have been equated with privacy to begin with. all they do is scrub local history

@tibi @cjust

Exactly this! Incognito mode came about for those guys and gals trying to keep family members from knowing what they were up to. That's all it ever did.

Back in the day before incognito was a thing you learned how to use a portable web browser off of an encrypted thumb drive. No cookies and no cache for snooping parents.

To keep things truly private you still need the encrypted drive but need to be using Tor.

Then you need to burn your house and the internet to the ground.

@tibi @cjust when I worked on a browser (which luckily recedes into history ever further) the private mode we built had truly ephemeral data. Pages loaded never hit the disk, no writes were performed to any persistent store, and any and all telemetry was disabled across the entire product while it was enabled.

Seeing malfeasance like this from my peers is rage-inducing and strips away user trust.

@[email protected] @tibi @cjust By peers do you mean the people on Chrome or at Google? AFAIK the client did what it said it would. The problem was that servers can and do still collect data about people that use private browsing and correlate it with other data

@dotproto

@tibi @cjust the trick there remains making private modes look and feel the same as normal browsing to the site that's loaded. APIs leak that constantly, like writing to a persistent store failing or otherwise.

At that point, it's a matter of public policy and laws around data collection.

@tibi @cjust To be fair, easily scrubbing local history is incredibly important for people in for example abusive domestic situations.
@tibi @cjust it literally says Google still collects the data on every incognito tab you open