Today is my last day at IBM.

I joined Netrex in February 1999 as a Unix admin

In late 1999 Internet Security Security Systems bought Netrex, largely for its managed services business.

In October 2006, when I was the director of IT, IBM bought ISS largely for its managed services business.

I was given lots of opportunities at IBM. Twice I found myself in the wrong place at the wrong time and was on a list to be let go, but other parts of IBM decided to pick me up. I once resigned to take a job at Deloitte, and at the time my manager told me that didn’t work for anyone and made it worth my while to stay. For many years, I led an incident response function for the strategic outsourcing business, which was later spun off to be what is now Kyndryl. I learned a LOT. I learned so much, in fact, that I decided to start a podcast in 2012, partly to make myself smarter, and partly in hopes that I could help the industry avoid the mistakes I was seeing our clients make on a near daily basis. I have deep scars from all the big security events of the 2010’s - heartbleed, shellshock, wannacry, notpetya, and many others.

In 2019, I was leading an internal practice around cyber regulations (in addition to the IR role) and ended up helping the cloud business out of a sticky situation. Unbeknownst to me, cloud had been looking to replace their CISO, and in March 2020, they offered me the job. My first big test was leading Cloud through Covid.

I had the extreme privilege to lead a team of 184 remarkably talented professionals. We did some cool things, but I regret the long list of things that didn’t get done.

As well published in the news, IBM took a hard line on return to office, particularly for executives. They gave people like me a choice: relocate to a key site (Atlanta was not one of them) and work from the office 3 days a week (with tight attendance tracking), or be let go. I have been working from home full time since shortly after IBM bought ISS in 2006 - nearly 18 years. I spend about 1/3 of my time at my beach place, which I was not willing to part with. Plus, I fundamentally disagree with the return to office approach and with how people have been treated, so I opted to “let it happen”, and so today is the day IBM terminates me.

I’ve saved up enough money that I can take a break for a while. It’s been 32 years since I’ve had more than a week off work, and at least 20 since I’ve had any sort of vacation that wasn’t disrupted by urgent meetings, crises, and so on. I’m going to spend some time with my family, especially my extremely patient wife, in ways that I haven’t been able to.

I have a very long list of things I’ll be doing during this downtime. I intend to get back into podcasting; I am going to write some including maybe a book; I am going to focus more on the fediverse instances I manage to ensure they are enduring; I am going to way too many baseball games with my wife (she is a mega baseball fan); and I am going to take way too many pictures and hopefully find some creative ways to make money with those pics.

TL;DR: today is the end of a long journey for me, and the start of a new one. And it’s a good day.

@jerry All the best, Jerry. Don't go too stir crazy!
@jerry no more deep dish discounts on power ws?

@gary_alderson @jerry

I have *two* t-shirts with this image.

@jerry Take care of yourself mate <3
@jerry Wishing you all the best for the future.
@jerry best of luck to you and thank you for all that you've done and continue to do! Rest well earned!
@jerry Congrats on the end of your job Jerry. Now repent and slack off! 
@jerry Have a great time in the next chapter of your journey.
@jerry Congratudolences and may you have many happy returns.

@jerry Wow. i didn't know why you were leaving. Now to learn that it's over return to office.. Man. Especially for someone who was remote before the pandemic. That just seems really pretty on ibms part.

At red hat they're just closing or shrinking offices to offset the remoteness.

@gangrif I feel a lot of the RTO is an "easy" way of getting rid of expensive headcount. They'll feel the pain going forward. Like with any voluntary layoff the high performers are the first to seek greener pastures.
@jerry
@fedops @gangrif it is broadly speaking exactly that. In my case, it was a convenient opportunity for the new senior team to bring in one of their trusted colleagues from their prior company. I expect they are spending much more on the new CISO than they paid me.
@jerry @fedops @gangrif his/her insurance is much more now due to regs, they are on the hook personally - another factor to consider, hope you enjoy some time off but then return and work even harder for yourself than you did for big blue #work - the great escape #sec #rear window
@gary_alderson @jerry @fedops @gangrif if you end up as a small CISO consulting firm that costs 4 times as much and gets to set up lots of "Well, it's not MY decision..." traps to ensnare Bad Middle Management and never ever had to set foot in the office unless it's on the client's travel dime with hefty Per Diem... I wouldn't be at all surprised and would in fact be delighted.
@jerry wow! can’t wait to see what you do next!
@jerry What a dumb policy, enjoy your break. I did something similar a few years ago, albeit related to absurd reorg not return to office, and have no regrets.
@jerry bravo! Congrats on your exciting new journey!

@jerry
> It’s been 32 years since I’ve had more
> than a week off work, and at least 20
> since I’ve had any sort of vacation
> that wasn’t disrupted by urgent
> meetings, crises, and so on.

Jeez. I feel sorry for you.
That's time you will never get back.

@jerry First, congratulations on an accomplished and impactful career, I’m so glad to learn your backstory. I hope you and your family will enjoy this next chapter, and that you land in a place which is satisfying and productive.

What a ham-handed loss for IBM though. (I have some feelings about the org as my ex was an employee in the early 2000s. There were some difficult lessons learned about corporate behavior, which influenced my preference for startups.)

@jerry
It really sucks that a stupid corporate policy made this decision for you. But it sounds like you really deserve this forced break from work for a bit. Enjoy it.
@jerry this is incredible news and I wish you all the best! I hope to join you on that beach at some point a few more years from now. And I was particularly nodding about the understanding wife. I don’t think some of us comprehend just how difficult our careers are on our families.
@sfoskett nearly all of my peers were divorced. I ended up buying the beach place because I couldn’t take vacations, but my wife needed to, so it let me work from the beach while she vacationed. It worked well. Now I get to fully enjoy for a little while too
@jerry reread my message, I realize that I probably sounded a little out of left field. Here you are talking about being laid off and everything and the only thing that resonated with me was a part-time beach house and spending more time with my family!

@jerry I wish you a long, uninterrupted, and peaceful break while you work out what you want to do next.

20 years with no decent break... yikes! It's definitely past time for some decompression. Enjoy your time away from the grind!

@jerry Thank you for sharing. All the best with this transition! Take some time for deep resting, when it feels right.
@jerry Congrats Jerry! Enjoy the time, and it is good to refocus as well... sometimes these journeys take us places we don't exactly want to be, but after some recalibration, we relearn our true passions.
@jerry Good luck in the wild!
@jerry Best of luck and I'm sure a lot of people here, like me, look forward to travel along that journey with you. 👍
@jerry Enjoy the time with your family ❤
@jerry
Enjoy your time off Jerry. We live only once and while we, security guys, tend to love the work we do, it's the time out of work which matters the most. Good luck!

@jerry even if you don't publish it, take some time and start writing a memoir about your journey.

I've found that in our industry, we build things that aren't tangible and physical for the most part. Its not like we slave away in a wood working shop and at the end of the day is a nice chair.

A memoir is a decent physical manifestation of the path you took on your adventure.

@jerry It’s amazing how parallel our careers have been and yet we’ve never met. I’m envious of your time off! It’s a big loss for IBM.
@jerry All my best to you. May you continue to find contentment and fulfullment in all that you do.
@jerry
Big loss for IBM, but great opportunity for you to spend the quality time on the people and things you care for. While you do your writing you should think about giving some small talks at a few sec cons. You're always so insightful!

@jerry I assume the argument you've been given regarding returning to the office is "better collaboration"? I hear it constantly.

These same companies also have a high reliance on offshore developers who cannot be collaborated with, except for a couple of hours, at most, per day, and remotely at that. But, these companies are fine with it because they believe it saves them money (I don't believe they save money). But collaboration is apparently unimportant in the decision to use offshore developers.

I wonder what the real reason behind bullying people to return to the office really is? I hear many theories. None of them benefit employees, just the company.

Coming into the office is a big financial and time burden on employees, but these companies don't seem to care a bit about this. Apparently, you working remotely was working out just fine for them, before.

Can any managers who want to force a return to the office for better collaboration explain why offshore developers are still OK then?

@jerry
"Working from home" has, as a phrase, always made it sound like one is slacking and not meeting expectations. Being in the office just means you wasted your time commuting there and back every day* so getting less done overall. Businesses that just want you on the premises for no valid reason will suffer long-term, the genie is out of the office.

Have yourself a rest and enjoy whatever comes next!

(* and contributing to climate change)

@AlisonW @jerry Sounds like the RTO was a cover for a personnel change to bring a friend of the management into the position.
@jerry Best wishes for your next chapter….✊

@jerry Wow that is an impressive run. Respect to you Jerry, one day I hope to gather as much knowledge as you.

Now as you said, it’s recharge time.

I am sure you will do incredible things next.

Thank you for running this instance.

I fully support your transition from CSO to motivational flower photographer & author! You've worked hard, @jerry!
@jerry Sounds like the right choice. I thought you were retiring! Enjoy your break, and I hope whatever comes next is fulfilling.
@jerry
I would like your advice.
I'm currently working with a big company, and I don't agree with the "investors first" method of leadership. Most of my life have been programing and my degree is on business management, so of course I have my own small "company".
Do you regret working so long for others and don't "do your own thing" for so long?
I'm thinking on leaving and making my dream job, but currently paycheck to paycheck so it's almost impossible.
@jerry
I'm still "young" and I talking with my coworkers most of the time I have the feeling they are in the same position as me, wanting to leave but fearing the consequences.
I don't want to be old and regret at least not trying to do my own stuff, but I lack the sustenance and client base to keep it at float by my own. We have good clients today and they very much like our work.
@Andres @jerry Keep building your client base and revenue to the point where you can forecast a growth plan to obtain funding to add resources to build it out without working for another company. Maybe you already have that growth idea but just need the funding. Document it and take it to potential investors or banks. Being young is the best time to make this move. I’m sure you could always land on your feet again if your business does not pan out.
@wdjorth Thanks for your words.
We are currently a handful of people with no so much skill for selling and that's our weakness.
I could have a lot of funding, but sadly that doesn't ensure clients.
@Andres You can hire sales people, but you really need to know and trust the person, and have strong metrics for success in that role, replacing quickly and early if not making the numbers.
@wdjorth
That's the hard part, I can't find "sales people" and the ones that I find usually disappear before bringing the first client.
@Andres Keep looking. It will all come together at the right time

@jerry congratulations Dad. Eevee,K,Onix, and I are proud of you. We look forward to your time off. Next round is on me

Here’s some Eevee too

@jerry
damn! if they'll axe CISO for their RTO obsession, peons like me can't be far behind. i hope they come to regret it before it's too late — but either way, i won't comply with that nonsense, either.

anyways, thank you for your leadership, and best wishes for a happier life. you're finally free from Big Blue! rejoice and be glad!

@jerry damn, 30 years without real vacations is insane, don’t let that happen again!

All the best on your next adventure.

@jerry @pluralistic I salute you. Thank you for all you’ve done and will continue to do.

@jerry

> It’s been 32 years since I’ve had more than a week off work,

Holy fucking shit dude. What the hell. That's wild. I would not be enjoying life after that. I already struggle and I have never had a year without at least 2 week long breaks and one 2+ week break.

But yeah, different strokes for different folks. Congratulations on your exit. I hope you have an excellent and enjoyable long break before you find your next big thing ☺️

@jerry take your wife off to somewhere romantic and have a second honeymoon. You’ve both earned it.
@jerry Congratulations to you Jerry! Well earned and have a blast taking a break.
@jerry good for you - best of luck!