I get 1password from from work... now that I am being kicked out, I need to figure out if I want to stay with 1Password... (and pay for it) 🤔

@jerry fwiw I found it easy to migrate passwords from 1Password when my work initiated a password manager mandate with LastPass as their chosen vendor. It took like 5 minutes to copy over the logins and stuff I needed out of there.

1Password rules though I think you should keep it.

@fixiemama @jerry seconded.. moved from LastPass to 1Password after researching various options. Well regarded from a security perspective and great features
@Cali
cc @jerry I am not a LastPass fan. I found their tech to be wanting. 1Password all the way! It's so simple to add logins from my phone as well as desktop which is super important to me. I use almost all the features; I have different vaults, I share the passwords of some accounts with my kiddo, and I get helpful reminders along the way. If LastPass suits you that's great, happy for you. But I would never switch voluntarily.
@jerry check out vaultwarden - a light implementation of the bitwarden server. Easy to self host
@roo don't give @jerry ideas because he might start hosting vault.infosec.exchange for us!
@sassdawe @jerry everyone needs a hobby
@jerry never had it for work, but have used it for years for personal. Absolutely love the cross platform usability (although they’re pretty much all tha way now — they weren’t when I started using it).
@jerry another vote for Bitwarden. Weird name but does the job.
@PierceH @jerry what's weird about the name, they're the guardian of your bits, makes perfect sense 😁
@jerry I love it and see no reason to change.
@jerry you can self host Bitwarden if you want or use theirs.
@jerry I pay for Bitwarden because I love it and feel like I need to support them, even though their free tier is great.
@jerry just use Password1! everywhere, much simpler
@jerry
Bitwarden is really nice. $10/yr is pretty damn cheap.
@jerry I've used a bunch of them through the years and I like the flexibility of Bitwarden the most, so it gets my money

@jerry

I have been using Bitwarden for a while. I am happy with it.

@jerry You want to stay. It's inexpensive, and it's the best out there. Hell, get a family plan and get everyone involved. I really think password managers are the best security out there. And they're so innovative! (1Password, that is)
@jerry between the serious/reliable password managers, 1Password is still at the sweet spot of OS integration, UI and UX.
If you want to pay less or want to cover a larger family Bitwarden or Dashlane will be your friends.
German car analogy: Bitwarden is a rough reliable Volkswagen. 1Password is a well thought out reliable Mercedes.
One deciding factor for me was the availability of tags in 1Password. I use them to add an abstraction layer on top of the tiered pro and family password vaults. ie: the sensitive tag is used to mark my Crown Jewels wherever they are located.
@jerry Im perhaps just tech-savvy, but Im happy with keepass :)

@jerry you might be deluged with alternative suggestions, but here's another one: When I found that my mother-in-law was unable & unwilling to deal with sundry aspects of 1Password, I migrated all her security tokens to open-source (sundry copyleft and other licenses), cross-platform competitor codebase KeePassXC, which has a presence in MS-Windows, MacOS, and Linux spaces.

It's C++, reasonably well maintained, and lacking in certain 1Password enhancements such as integration with The Clown (TM, jwz). You might wish to give it a spin.

(An argument can be made, and has been, for a variant compiled with bells and whistles omitted. https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/973782/3718b3d56afa4479/ )

#1password
#KeepassXC

The KeePassXC kerfuffle [LWN.net]

@jerry

I personally use Bitwarden but I'm sure 1Password is a good option.

I did look at EnPass briefly but Bitwarsen seemed to be a better option, whixhnalwo supports Passkeys if that's something you need.

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@remm @jerry he’s retiring and probably will be kicked of the business plan.
@gh0sti @remm that’s true (the getting the boot, not really retiring), however that web page answered a question I have - after I get kicked off the corp plan, I’ll have the chance to add a payment method.
@jerry I don’t think you can go wrong with any of the suggestions in this thread.

@jerry Paying for 1Password and paying for Bitwarden is basically about the same - both seem broadly equivalent these days.

If you value the familiarity, stick with 1P.

OTOH, Bitwarden can be self-hosted ... and you do know a fair bit about that topic. And it has just released a secrets manager, so ... you can use it for real work as well as for personal access.

@jerry my 1password journey started with the employer as well, till then I was lastpass user. When I quit, I stayed with 1password as I really like it. But I know that migration between password managers is easy, so even if you decide to switch to something else there should be basically no obstacles.

@jerry if you're happy with it.

I like and use pass. But it's a very nerdy way to save passwords. But it's free and open source.

@jerry lots of them over the years (Lastpass, Bitwarden, Dashlane, Keepass ...) I prefer 1Password. It works on all my devices without any issues.
And on a family plan you can have up to 5 users. It's integration with Fastmail's masked email feature has also been really useful for me.

@PeterDodemont @jerry

Another vote for keeping it.
It works on all my platforms (Linux/Windows/Android), the company hasn't done anything to violate the trust (for me - I know a lot of people are upset over the cloud subscription move)

@jerry I put my parents onto it and it's a life saver for them. I'm weird and faf around with keepassxc and run my own sync process.
@jerry anything that doesnt upload the password database to external servers is good
@jerry FWIW, I've been very happy with KeePass and its variants for many years. It's fiddly, especially in terms of backups and syncing being entirely your problem, but the flip side to that is that it is largely safe from the threats of enshittification.
@jerry I use BitWarden with the family plan. Makes it much easier to organize passwords among my family
@jerry Pass, the standard unix password manager.
Keep your gpg key on nfc/usb hardware tokens. Don't let some malware steal all your passwords when your machine gets popped.
@jerry I kept 1Password.
@crdotson did you create a new account or somehow migrate your existing one?
@jerry I created a family account and then moved the personal items over to it, which was super easy (just click move), and left the corporate ones to die in the corporate vault. :). I actually did that a while back, so I just made sure that everything was in the right vault before leaving.
@jerry I have a family plan on 1Password to help my parents manage their passwords and have been really happy with it. It works across all my devices as well as my husband’s Android ecosystem. Definitely worth the money for me.
@jerry set up a vaultwarden server instead. The official bitwarden apps and extensions can connect to it.

@jerry

I put in a vote for KeePassXC

@EFreethought if you don’t need to share passwords and you’re the only user best option.
@jerry When I left previous job a couple months ago, I was prepared to shell out the $72/year (1PW Families @ $60/year plus one extra user) because I think it's that good, I've been using it for years before I got previous job to adopt it, and I've got family (parents and brothers) on it so we can easily share stuff as parents get older.

@jerry I have not read your numerous responses to this.

I have investigated this myself each of the past two years, as I really don’t like some of the business decisions 1Password is making.

Bottom line: the gap may be closing, but 1Password is still the best out there.

@jerry kicked out? That sucks man, are you alright?
@WowSuchCyber yeah, I am good. I’m going to take some time to figure out what I want to do next. Because I am not sure I want to do that again.
@jerry good idea if you can do that. It takes a while to spin your head out of the craziness of those high stress positions. Whishing you the best! (Judging by the pics you post, it's going in a nice direction :-)

@jerry I concurrently use 1Password Family, Bitwarden (free) and Proton Pass (Proton Unlimited) on multiple platforms with other users. In your situation, i.e. with secrets already in your "complimentary" 1Password Family account (which I presume you use for a "family"), I'd keep it because it's the best at everything except being fully open source.

> If you leave your business account or are removed from it, your family account will be unlinked from it, and it will enter into a complimentary trial period. You can add a payment method to start a 1Password Families subscription.
https://support.1password.com/link-family/

If you already pay for Proton, then consider switching to Proton Pass. It's not near to feature parity with 1Password, but is good, improving rapidly and you're already paying for it.

Bitwarden is very close to 1Password in features, but note that the free tier does not include TOTP or Passkeys, rendering it next to useless as a single secrets store, but excellent as a free backup for your vaults. The lowest paid tier adds them at a very reasonable cost and other tiers are priced competitively.

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@jerry do it. It’s worth it. I just helped my mom unlock her account which I was surprised I could do with her being in my family.
@jerry @troyhunt who’s behind haveibeenpwned is on their board and integrated his services into 1pass.
@jerry I recommend against 1P. Cloud only is not a valid solution for password storage. My recommendation is: Bitwarden + Vaultwarden. You can use their cloud too, but I just pay there.
@jerry Vaultwarden runs as docker container on my NAS.

@jerry if you want one more data point :

I've used Bitwarden and 1Password extensively, both are great, but there are a few featureset differences that may help you decide switching or not.

- 1Password's UX is generally more polished, which is especially handy if you have a non-tech-savvy family
- 1Password is good at automatically detecting TOTP setup qr-codes on the page
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@jerry
I personally think it's worth paying for 1Password. Though a good alternative is Bitwarden. The downside is Bitwarden isn't as user friendly....
@jerry unfortunately it turned into an electron app, what already should be a reason to avoid it.
As bitwarden also is an electron app, you’re sadly out of luck with the two main candidates.
As I only need my password manager to work in the Apple ecosystem I’m evaluating Strongbox now.
As it is compatible to KeepPass I should be able to access my vault from other OSes as well.

@jerry I root for @bitwarden

It does the job and has a solid self-hosted version.

#Bitwarden