Voting is a strange thing to me.

I mean, we know that those who vote for conservative and nationalist (Edit: actually I mean "fascist" , not "nationalist," which is sometimes used to describe leftist independence parties) parties don't vote in their own interest. A lot of them are among the people who will suffer the most under those parties (e.g. from cuts in social security).

But I don't think we on the left always vote in our own interests either.

Many anarchists don't vote at all, because they don't want to support that system.
Okay, but parties are not funded by votes. Non-voters still pay taxes. And the state doesn't have less power if fewer people vote.

In countries with a two party system many leftists don't vote, because they are disappointed by the candidate that should be on their side.

In both cases I say: Vote for the lesser evil and then be the non parliamentary opposition!
Not voting doesn't weaken the system or show "them" a lesson. It only strengthens the worse evil.
And revolution and protest will be easier in a moderately evil state than a fascist police state.

@forthy42 @PaulaToThePeople except that doesn't work in dupolist systems like the US, unless you want to get suprised Pikachu face the Orange tyrant and his militias to rule...
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Kevin Karhan :verified: (@[email protected])

@[email protected] EXACTLY THAT! Because anything else is empowering the opressors... But [as the replies below this post evidence]( https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/112443097607563361 ) people would rather complain and actively enshittify the world rather than even marginally work towards hettering it...

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@forthy42 @PaulaToThePeople that's not how the #USA and their shitty duopoly works!

If #Biden doesn't win, we'll se a christofacist dictatorship led by #Trump as per #Project2025 that'll be a bigger risk to world peace and likely genocide as well as democide harder than anyone could imagine!

Kevin Karhan :verified: (@[email protected])

@[email protected] @[email protected] so instead of *choosing to replace oil with wood in terms of a fire* you think it's a 'wise decision' to *chug in an entire barrel of Napalm mixed with sodium and magnesium filings and a kilo of white phosporous* because *making everyone suffer more will certainly teach privileged wankers to be more social*... - That's like beating up a child or a dog: It doesn't make them *reason*, at most it'll just make them frighten you... The problem is the #AmericanOligarchy, the #Duopoly and most of all the #apathy of #voters. - I mean if people don't want even the fake of a #democracy then shure, *let them have their cake and eat it too*... The issue is that this makes that a fucking problem well beyond the 313M U.S. citizens and the area the USA controls, because for some reason >1/10th of the entire global population directly and propably way more indirectly rely upon the #USA being a *stable Nation* not led by a #Russia|n #Agent and #Christofacist #Dictator like #Trump. - And if you think that's bad then look up #Project2025... IDK about you but I don't intent to wait and see whether or not the #OrangeTyrant will show the same level of #cowardice and non-#commitment to #NATO as he did with #Ukraine (after all, #BudapestMemorandum would mean #BootsOnTheGround!), cuz I am not convinced that if Putin were to decide to wipe the balitc states off the map that *this time any POTUS would do it differently*... - Being able to be an opportunistic single-issue voter is such a blissful simplicity. I wish I was stupid and/or antisocial enough to not give a shit and just set the world on fire...

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@forthy42 @PaulaToThePeople I never told people that #Biden would be a saviour,so stop making that shit up!

All I said is that as of now #VoteBlue isn't just a "#LesserEvil" but a "#NecessaryEvil"!

If you really believe that bs then please kindly fuck off because I do intent to outlive #LateStaeCapitalism by all means necessary and sadly that's not gonna fly with the orange tyrant in power.

Yes OFC I wished we'd see #BernieSanders and #AOC instead on the roll, but sadly in the #AmericanOligarchy., the #SuperPAC|s and #BigDonors decide who can even candidate because it's a cleptocracy.

  • Or do you really think Trump won't accelerate #war if he'd get big campaign contributions for that in return like the ones he promised #FossilFuel execs?

One can #vote for Biden whilst being a public #opposition on the streets, but you can't vote for Trump without inherently having the right to oppose him being stripped by him - as he already publicly stated as his intention!

I don't tell you what to think, I'll merely tell you how things are going to pan out exactly:

  • Either we get a 2nd Term of Biden who can't get a 3rd so he'll have a vocal voted-for-you - opposition and he can't actually loose big donors so he'd have a shot at doing things better

OR

I'll end this right here because at this point everything has been said and the sheer fact that #USpol is going to to impact my life against my consent despite being neither citizen nor resident nor eligible to vote is alteady nerve-wrecking and I think #defaitistic #FUD like yours isn't gonna help the situation anyway...

#EOD #thxbye #next

Bernd Paysan R.I.P Natenom 🕯️ (@[email protected])

@[email protected] @[email protected] Biden already went into war with Russia, decided that it should be endless, and has his genocide in Gaza. Stop telling people that Biden is a rescue. He's not. He has just more support from allies, so he's more likely to succeed. Both candidates are so defective, that voting for either makes you complicit with their crimes. There's a chance that Biden will step down if it is unlikely for him to win. Make sure that can happen.

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