Welp.
@ismh bro just one more pencil bro, bro I swear just one more pencil and it'll fix the iPad bro

@auramagi @ismh

Just one more pencil will SAVE DEMOCRACY! You want to save democracy, dontcha?

@ismh 😬 it’s a massive clichĆ©, but I can’t help but wonder What Would Steve Jobs Think
@joethephish @ismh šŸŽµ Two of these things are not like the others, two of these things are kinda (not) the same šŸŽµ
@ismh wait so the Apple Pencil 2 is incompatible with both new iPads?!
@willhbr @ismh Yes, the ā€œProā€ is taking the place of the 2nd gen on new models. The new camera placement seems to break the old setup
@ismh They don't even have a consistent naming scheme. Two named by generation, one named by connector, and one by… professionalism?
@sharding @ismh The elephant in the room: Pen Pineapple Apple Pen
@sharding @ismh you new to Apple? I mean the server name says no but…
@ismh
Does the 2nd gen pencil that I use with my M2 iPad Pro work with the new Pro or Air?

@caspercdn @ismh That’s disappointing, and another $129 for me to give Apple.

I really tried to hold out buying another one after my pencil 2 died, but at least the kids will be happy.

@jdechko @ismh
Yeah, the usb-c one is really a no-go. Magnetic charging is the best even for more $
@caspercdn @ismh loss of magnetic charging was one of my concerns with a new pencil. Glad to see they worked it out. And the additional features seem cool. I hope Goodnotes is updated to take advantage of the barrel roll and haptic features.
@caspercdn I don't think so. Probably that new charging/pairing mechanism built around the camera module.
@ismh @dordio I would like the PRO MAX
@timonus @ismh After all this time, I’ve given up on this
@ismh Was I interpreting correctly that the new Pencil Pro with Find My is not supported on the new iPad Air?
@ismh ...or maybe not, since the new Pencil is shown on the Air's store page.
@ismh This looks like a nightmare āœļø
@ismh Total and utter shitshow. This is ridiculous.

@ismh

Which is best for killing somebody with a pen? Yea know, like Joker, from that movie.

@ismh https://xkcd.com/927/

Does it still apply when you cause it to yourself?

Standards

xkcd

@ismh

I miss the days of the 3x3 product grid.

Tim is just throwing spaghetti at the wall.

@ismh
capitalism in a nutshell
@ismh Which one will work with my Macintosh Performa 600? And do I need a separate one for my Centris, Quadra, and Power Macs?
@ismh We've simplified the Apple Pencil line into four quadrants...
@ismh My pencil my choice! 🤪
@Dadmin tech companies hate this trick!

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@ismh Give it a few more years and every iPad owner will have their own bespoke Pencil.

@craiggrannell @ismh

But will any of them work for left-handers? Never could do anything but sign the simplest documents, making it the most expensive pencil I ever owned, let alone had very little use for.

@rob @craiggrannell @ismh what problems does it have for lefties? (Asking as a lefty who has not noticed any problems but I may just be ignoring them after a lifetime of being a lefty.)
@lyonsinbeta @craiggrannell @ismh
The palm rejection does not work for me. I can’t write worth a darn on an iPad.
@rob @craiggrannell @ismh I didn't realize palm rejection considered which hand you were writing with? The pencil settings has a handed option but with Apple who knows... šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

@lyonsinbeta @craiggrannell @ismh

Some left-handers write funny. I’m a product of my old-school Catholic education where some of my teachers tried to get me to write with my right hand.

@ismh @Gargron "congratulations, cupertino, you've ruined pencils!"
@ismh
Coming generations of humanity are going to have a tough time šŸ˜„
@ismh They no longer sell an iPad with a lightning port. Why is the first generation Pencil still on sale?
@MisterMoo It kinda makes sense for people with old Hardware that have lost their pencil
USB-C to Apple Pencil Adapter

The USB-C to Apple Pencil Adapter is required to pair and charge Apple Pencil (1st generation) with iPad (10th generation). Buy now at apple.com.

Apple
@ismh Iā€˜ll wait for Apple Pencil Pro Max XDR
@ismh
Don’t forget the Logitech Crayon
@ismh they should have dropped the 1st-gen Pencil. The 10th-gen iPad is the only model now being sold that supports it, but that model also works with the USB-C Pencil, which is $20 cheaper and doesn’t require an adapter!
@ismh Can we get a pineapple Apple Pencil?
@ismh
When I was in school, notebooks and pencils were less than a buck.
And we didn’t have to pay for engraving.
@ismh @Gargron Can’t help but think of Steve Jobs. He hated the stylus (although the Pencil is a more focused utensil) and he hated how many products Apple had when he returned from NeXT.

@freddy @ismh @Gargron Can’t we just just applaud that every iPad has access to a pencil? Even if that means that there’s a couple generations on the market.

Steve’s ā€œIf you see a stylus they blew itā€ remark was about devices that demanded a stylus to be operated.

https://www.macworld.com/article/226331/absurd-infinitum-deliberately-misunderstanding-steve-jobs.html

Absurd infinitum: Deliberately misunderstanding Steve Jobs

Jobs was decrying mobile devices that required a stylus for daily use. Nothing more.

Macworld
@stevenodb @ismh @Gargron That was why I added that the Pencil is a more focused tool and not the main input means. No need to Steve-splain 😘
@freddy @ismh @Gargron ā€œif Steve were alive today!ā€
@ismh If you need to write get help choosing you are doing something wrong.