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Widdershins Smith 🐘

Let's do something Putin will hate. Let's rejoin the #EU. And if that means we have to have cheaper food and fuel; the right to live, work, and retire in 31 other countries; higher environmental standards; and peace secured in NI, then that's a price I'm willing to pay...

Widdershins Smith 🐘Apr 18, 2024

Again, for the hard of thinking, can I just point out that this is a humour post?
It's not within my gift, nor that of solely the UK, to rejoin the EU.
As much as I wish that our corrupt, fascist government hadn't rigged the unlawful vote heavily in favour of leaving, and as much as wish the idiot public wouldn't read sodding newspapers controlled by corrupt, fascist oligarchs, they did and a minority of people voted to leave the EU. Certainly not the majority of the UK public.

Widdershins Smith 🐘Apr 18, 2024

We told them it'd be a disaster to leave and we were correct. Of course, like conspiracy theorists everywhere, the people who argued so vehemently to leave will never admit they were wrong, and will never apologise. They even lie about their vote to cover it up.
They are morons. The people who voted to leave who have family and friends who told them it'd be a disaster and still voted to leave are morons and cunts.

Widdershins Smith 🐘Apr 18, 2024

However, those of you arguing with my humourous post have clearly missed the satirical point. I pity you.

Frank Engelhard Apr 18, 2024

@juglugs The ones who missed your humour are probably the same people who voted for Brexit. Sorry for you, having to live with that crowd.

Jay 🇳🇱 🇪🇺 (Free 🇵🇸)Apr 17, 2024

@juglugs Want to do something Putin will hate? Send Ukraine significantly more powerful weaponry and send the Russians backward while reclaiming Crimea. That'll really piss him off

Skallywag Apr 17, 2024

@juglugs I'm in

JeanPDeliet Apr 17, 2024

@juglugs Good One!

CyclesBecauseSummerIsComing😀Apr 17, 2024

@juglugs and what do you bring up the table? Rivers that need cleaning up, new oil fields to ascorbate #climatechange , a higher deficit than when you left, 2 more royal graves and 2 less royals in the house, an nhs that is still not an example to copy for us, ( and all the things I don't because I follow eu news).
Do you have a solution for Ukraine up your sleeve? That would help, but I am a little peevish....

Eh?!?Apr 17, 2024

@juglugs
looking back at when the UK was in the EU, taking the most and giving the least, vetoing any attempt to build a political union (common fiscal policy, common defence etc) and focussing on the "common market" only, refusing any sovereignty concession (no euro, no Schengen), nurturing a role of preferred US partner in Europe etc, I doubt that Putin would actually hate the rejoin of UK. Unless it was on a totally different basis, like... the opposite of how the UK used to stay in the EU.

jamesTown Apr 17, 2024

@Eh__tweet @juglugs

To be fair they could join, but not with prefered treatment like in the old days. Get the Euro or get outo

Eh?!?Apr 17, 2024

@JamesTown_ @juglugs
Dropping the pound and joining the euro would be less than the bare minimum.
We should first get rid of the unaninimity rule that grants veto power to single MSs and only after consider new memberships.

jamesTown Apr 17, 2024

@Eh__tweet @juglugs

They surely lost a lot with that move and they will have to nagotiate new rules, Its not my job to make them Pay I would be glad tho to have London in the EU again its a cool country and I love shengen.

And a wealthy first World Nation for whats that worth.

Rage Rumbles 🏴‍☠️🫂 🔞Apr 17, 2024

@juglugs My life isn't determined by what Putin wants or doesn't want. Is yours?

How about doing something that all politicians and capitalists don't want and building a moneyless society in which wealth is irrelevant?

Gulag Gulagovich Gulagov Apr 17, 2024

@juglugs Nobody wants you in the EU. Nobody wanted you in the EU before you too, you were always a pain in the ass but it was to difficult to get rid of you. Thank you for leaving — no way you’re getting back in.

Have a nice day.

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛Apr 21, 2024

@glevonian @juglugs Oh no, I quite liked having the UK in the EU *because* they were such troublemakers. I was sad to see them go.

I like the EU project and I'm happy that my birth country joined, but some heavyweights in the union are prone to rushing headlong into a deeper union in ways that sometimes make sense, sometimes don't. It's been valuable to have an opposition party.

Gulag Gulagovich Gulagov Apr 21, 2024

@clacke @juglugs Sorry, it’s axiomatic, aside from a few nut cases, everyone in the world with a brain hates the British. Every week a country somewhere in the world celebrates their independence from British colonization.

Whenever something bad happens to the British, everyone in the world is a little bit happier.

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛Apr 21, 2024

@glevonian @juglugs That's all true, and yet they served a purpose. Perhaps even exactly because they couldn't get more unpopular than they were anyway. 😃

Gulag Gulagovich Gulagov Apr 21, 2024

@clacke @juglugs I can’t imagine anyone in the EU wanting them back, sorry.

xs4me2 Apr 17, 2024

Great idea!

MegatronicThronBanks Apr 17, 2024

@juglugs #rEUnion

Elfbiter Apr 17, 2024

@juglugs Putin buddy Boris would not like that.

zetabeta Apr 17, 2024

@juglugs
hint for brits.

before joining or possibly joining to the eu. fix u.k. political system first, like two party system and influence of money.

one politician per district leads to two-party system.

katzenberger Apr 17, 2024

I'd welcome that for an independent #Scotland, any time.

But let me remind you that most #EU member states remember very well what the #UK drama queen has been coming up with, for half a decade, to rub her low esteem for the #EU and its values under literally everybody's nose, and her desire to get rid of it all.

I doubt that most EU citizens have forgotten that already, and would welcome a return in the *near* future. Unpopular opinion: I certainly wouldn't, before 2035.

Charlie Stross Apr 17, 2024

@katzenberger @juglugs Please bear in mind that the "drama queen" behaviour is the Conservative Party and the extreme right: ascribing their idiocy to the UK as a whole is like looking at the AfD as if they represent Germany.

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛Apr 21, 2024

@cstross @katzenberger @juglugs And yet the UK as a whole, with the system it has, keeps voting for them.

It's unfair to pin it on every single citizen, but the country as an abstract entity is what the country does.

Graydon Apr 21, 2024

@clacke @katzenberger @cstross @juglugs The country had four hundred years of being the Pirate Kingdom. (And to the extent that it is not now the Pirate Kingdom, that was involuntary and is not acknowledged.) The idea of admiring a big pile of loot, however gotten, is axiomatic.

Axioms never die on their own; you have to replace them, and what you replace them with has to win the inevitable fight with the incumbents.

katzenberger Apr 21, 2024

Sorry for the belated answer, I just realized from a fragmented post stream that somebody must have replied to my post. Your instance wandering.shop has been hidden by mine.

While I don't ascribe the #Brexit to all of the #UK, I'm certainly not keen on having the leave-or-remain game repeated every decade, to the detriment of the #EU.

Thats why I chose 2035 - by then, we should see what a substantial majority of voters thinks about the consequences of the Brexit.

tuban_muzuru Apr 17, 2024

Brexit was the worst own goal in the history of the UK.

Axel Foley Apr 17, 2024

@juglugs I wish but, other than SNP, The Greens (and Scottish Greens) possibly Plaid, no-one else is listening.

Martin Vermeer FCD Apr 17, 2024

@juglugs Get proportional representation and a statutorily independent BBC first. The EU would be crazy to demand less. But welcome if you pull it off.

Veza85UE Apr 17, 2024

@martinvermeer @juglugs Not until we sort ourselves out first, change Treaties, ditch unanimity for all but constitutional matters, fix Rule of Law and get a fiscal union. If they're still eager AFTER all that, they can apply.

abolitionniste 🇪🇺Apr 18, 2024

I can "define" North Atlantic overseas:

member states: Finland, Ireland, Sweden

non-member states and other territories / islands: Iceland, Norway, United Kingdom, Canada, Greenland, Faroe Islands, Jan Mayen...

waters and ice and floating islands / platforms: North Atlantic...

I am for the geopolitical / military goal of the European Union to "dominate"(?) / "connect"(?) / "connect" the North Atlantic overseas? )...

https://trojkatretiho-cz.translate.goog/viewtopic.php?p=567&_x_tr_sl=cs&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en#p567

@Veza85UE @martinvermeer @juglugs

Severoatlantické zámoří Evropské unie - Trojka třetího

Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈Apr 17, 2024

@juglugs that sort of common sense does not belong in the UK.....we're told.

Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE Apr 17, 2024

@juglugs And we'll be better off than we were last time, as we'll gain Schengen and the euro.

🇪🇺🏳️‍🌈Apr 17, 2024

@TimWardCam @juglugs

And the EU will be better off as we’ll have lost our rebate 🤷

Win-win 👍

BoneHouseWasps🔶🇬🇧🇪🇺Apr 17, 2024

@juglugs Great but would you think they *want* us back?

EDIT - Lovely people on here notwithstanding, of course.

SamuelJohnson Apr 17, 2024

@juglugs UK would do better limiting private and corporate political donations, introducing state funding for parties based on vote share (both done in Ireland). Crooks won't like it. UK not welcome back without a complete overhaul, which will take time.

el Celio 🇪🇺 🇺🇦Apr 17, 2024

you will not be able to join the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership though. 😞