Here are the results of the little #Linux survey I ran early this week!

I must admit the results surprised me, I tried to explain them as best I could, but don’t hesitate to comment on the video if you have other ideas !

Also, the raw data is available from the link in the description :)

https://youtu.be/8V8uQbIFlh0

@thelinuxEXP I think it would be good to next time have the poll open a little bit longer and ideally mention it in a video; the YouTube community tab and Mastodon are sadly really easy to miss... :(
@jcm Yeah, I had to kinda rush this one, but I’ll leave it up for longer next time!

@thelinuxEXP I switched from i3 to sway many years ago. I had no problems with i3 but Xorg was a different matter. Wayland did scaling better: I configured it globally and it work for all clients (some blurry, most not). I used different monitors on my laptop in different places. Switching scales on Xorg was a pain. Wayland did per-display scaling, which I needed when using lodpi and hidpi displays together.

(IIRC, I switched in 2018)

@thelinuxEXP great Video, I like how you emphasize, that the results aren't representative and agree with most of your conclusions.

Just one thing: The number of answers are great, incredible. The amount is not the problem (scientifically), they aren't randomly chosen (as you mentioned yourself).

Still, I don't know a better approach as you did.

@thelinuxEXP Arch no 1? no way! πŸ˜†
@thelinuxEXP Also, this survey was kinda flawed for people using multiple systems for different things. My work laptop is ubuntu but home PC is fedora. So I could represent only one. Maybe that is why steam os is so low, people chose their other distro.
@thelinuxEXP I'm not that surprised that people actually like Wayland. Most issues I've had with it were attributable specifically to Nvidia driver bugs when running on Wayland, not Wayland itself. When I've used it with any other GPU, it has worked flawlessly

@thelinuxEXP I compared the stats with @gamingonlinux monthly survey (https://www.gamingonlinux.com/users/statistics/). Note that many (if not all) categories do not fully overlap and some entries are hidden in "other" categories. Still, it shows some differences between communities – and overlaps.

Nick's survey – GoL survey [%]

Distributions
Arch-based 33 – 39
Ubuntu-based 22 – 31
Fedora-based 21 vs 12
#Arch 22 – 21
#Fedora 19 – 11
#Ubuntu 9 – 10
#NixOS 7 – 1
#Mint 6 – 7
#Debian 5 – 5
#OpenSUSE 4 – 4
#Manjaro 3 – 9

User stats | GamingOnLinux

Statistics generated from the users of the GamingOnLinux website

GamingOnLinux

Desktop environments
#Plasma 30 – 40
#Gnome 32 – 29
21% for "tiling WM" vs 9% for "WM only"
#Cinnamon 7 – 8
#XFCE 3 – 7
#MATE 1 – 2
#Cosmic 3 – 1

#Wayland 66 – 33

GPU vendors (assuming dGPU is dominant and reported in GoL)
#Nvidia 37 – 43
#AMD 39 – 53
#Intel 24 – 4

CPU vendors
AMD 50 – 67
Intel 49 – 33

Proprietary Nvidia drivers
87 – 98

Dual boot
nope 63 – 74
yes, #Windows 30 – 24
yes, #MacOS 1 – 0
other 6 – 2

I should have specified Ubuntu-based includes Ubuntu, same for Fedora-based and Arch-based. I forgot one more interesting point.

#Steam OS 0 – 2

@thelinuxEXP People shouldn't br surprised about Arch. It's a meme, but it's also a damn good distro.

I think there is this false narrative that you can either choose Arch for bleeding edge packages or you can choose another distro for stability. It's just not true. My Arch install is almost 3 years old, and I've never had any major issues.

Also Arch packages often LAG behind distros like Fedora, so the idea that it's some bleeding edge system is also false.

@thelinuxEXP I recently forked Paper, an open source flatpak notes app, and released it as Folio for which I created an AppImage and a Snap as well.

I can pretty much back up the lack of interest in Snaps as in the month since I released the Snap I've only had 32 downloads, where as the Flatpak is over 2500 with just an extra week or two of release 🀷

No way to track the AppImage of course, but that's part of AppImage's problem from a developers perspective.

@GregRoss Oh wow, that’s rough! I’m not surprised, though, Snaps seem to be universally shun’ed
@thelinuxEXP When Canonical made it clear they weren't just "supporting Snap" but "supporting Snap at the expense of Flatpak and the general user experience", it made it an easy decision to move to Fedora 🀷
@thelinuxEXP The Arch results were very surprising. I guess some people like punching themselves in the groin in order to computer.
@the_q Haha yeah, I don’t quite get that one either
@thelinuxEXP i just made a mastodom instance
@thelinuxEXP Honestly the distro results don't surprise me at all. I think if you're watching videos about more in-depth topics (e.g. which package format to use), you're also much more likely to customize your system, e.g. using ArchLinux.
@thelinuxEXP Fun Fact: The number of people using Arch(-based) and Nix aswell as Hyprland is inflated because the Hyprland developer "demanded" everyone to vote for Hyprland, which caused the increased amount of votes on Arch Linux, NixOS and Hyprland.
@thelinuxEXP Loved this video, wish I would have seen the survey!
@thelinuxEXP
I have to use the Nvidia proprietary drivers, because of the terrible screen tearing I had with the Nouveau driver, I tried to use a compositor as fix but it made the problem even worse. I'm not even tried to play any games with the Nouveau driver other than some open source ones which worked although performed poorly compared to the proprietary driver's performance.
@thelinuxEXP
I think the low percentage of users who use the Nouveau driver can be because of other users had similar experience using it.
I think nobody is really surprised by how unpopular the Nouveau driver is among the users who have a dedicated Nvidia graphics card.
@thelinuxEXP fascinating survey results. What surprised me was how few people were using elementary OS.
@thelinuxEXP hey there, one of the Linux on mac duds here! Shoutout to the asahi team! Will you consider doing a video about gaming on a mac when the Vulkan driver drops? There have been apparently some workarounds to get x86_64 apps running (there's a whole ordeal regarding memory page size)

@thelinuxEXP According to the results, this aged like milk:

https://ludocode.com/blog/flatpak-is-not-the-future

Flatpak Is Not the Future

@Logical_Error Yeah, that post was never not completely irrelevant anyway, all the arguments here can be summed up as Β« yeah, it’s better in a lot of areas but it’s not perfect, so might as well not use it Β»
@thelinuxEXP We bitch about wayland so much because we use it. If nobody used it, nobody would complain.
@thelinuxEXP Hi Nick. I'd have liked to have participated in the survey but never heard about it. 😞
#Debian #MATE user here. 
@Siucraym Yeah, next time, I’ll post it in advance, a leave it up for a longer time period