China: figures out a process to farm Caviar thus saving wild sturgeon from extinction and make a delicacy widely affordable to the masses

American Press:

@Miriamm Because it's not delicious unless it's expensive and comes with a threat of an extinction. 
@Miriamm Ikea used to have a delicious vegan version called Seaweed Pearls, but they no longer sell them in Dublin 😭
@Miriamm Luxury is just a symbol of power: look at me I consume unaffordable, commons destroying products without having to care. Their taste does not matter.
You do not have money for subsistential needs? I just throw my money away and you can't do anything about it.
Replacing luxury goods and making them available for everyone is nonsense. Just making them less commons destroying and telling no one about it is IMHO more promising. 🤷
@Miriamm Given that caviar was originally peasant food.... tough.

@ariaflame @Miriamm Yup, and lobster was considered trash food. In the UK they would feed it to prisoners.

I always found it interesting how some foods flipped to become those status foods of the highly rich. Maybe making food more equitable, it will cool off that human predilection for class warfare.

@Miriamm @julescelt01 @ariaflame I think sushi was also a peasant food.
@my_actual_brain @Miriamm @julescelt01 Lobster was as well I think. (Which now as I read the posts overnight has been covered already)

@ariaflame @Miriamm
Escargot too.

I'm perennially amused by the fact that snails preserved in oil have become a symbol of the nobility, and still cost quite a bit on US store shelves. I like a good gastropod as much as the next girl, but please...

@Miriamm extra common corporate media L
@Miriamm either way the fish are saved 🤷‍♂️
@Miriamm Caviar is almost as gross and nasty as the filthy rich assholes that eat it. Choke on it bitches!
@Miriamm well, how can something be exclusive if it doesn’t exclude as many as possible.
How are we to treat something as exclusive when it is in fact inclusive.
It only holds value if others can’t have access to it.
Obviously

@Miriamm

I just wanna thank you for screenshotting & summarizing instead of posting a link to a paywall

#Solidarity from Tacoma!
   

@Miriamm meanwhile, Danes figured out a way to make a vegan Caviar product from seaweed, totally customizable across coloring and flavor, while avoiding cruelty all together and cutting the cost to a fraction.

https://caviart.com

Cavi-art: Sustainable plant-based alternative to caviar.

Cavi-art is a 100% family owned Danish company, which for several years has created a sustainable, user-friendly and plant-based alternative to fish roe.

Cavi-art

@Miriamm
Status goods are for people who can't manage the whole "being a decent person" thing, but still want *some* reason to believe other people should think well of them.

We won't, but sure, by all means eat your expensive salt water balls, dickheads.

@Miriamm just wait what happens once they find out that oysters don’t need to be a luxury either – and weren’t for the longest time.
@Miriamm lobster used to be considered an awful low class food, that is, until overfishing destroyed the population. Taste doesn't matter at all they only care about rarity
@Slipp @Miriamm I feel like this also explains why the concept of NFTs fascinates them.
@Miriamm American press feeds us rich person propaganda.
They constantly panic when rent or home prices fall.
@Miriamm Caviar tastes absolutely horrible IMHO, I don't know why anybody wants to eat that.
@Miriamm In Portugal sardines were for the poor, but now they are a luxury for the rich
@Miriamm Here in Sweden we get caviar in tubes at your average grocery store.

Also Gevalia, a typical household brand of Swedish coffee, is apparently sold as high-end in USA?

@Miriamm

Hum....
I like to eat caviar from time to time
and it would be nice if it was less expensive
but let's be honest
....caviar produced in China?
where they make fake eggs? , plastic rice?
where they collect the oil from the sewers and then resell it?
As far as toxic food sophistication is concerned
China
it's probably in first place in the world
for the Chinese themselves, eating has become a kind of 'Russian Roulette'
honestly... who would trust themselves to eat it?

@Miriamm The only value consumer culture of the rich sees in anything is if it does one of two things (or ideally both): to be priced out of the hands of the poor, to be environmentally/morally despicable.
@Miriamm it's always like this. China makes solar panels cheap enough to boost the solar power generating capacity of the world by leaps and bounds, and the Western press is like "the stranglehold of cheap Chinese solar dumping." They call it dumping

@InternetEh @Miriamm I’m sure if it was the other way around and western factories were pumping out solar panels, it would be hailed as saving the world!

China has its faults, but bias in many news outlets is blatantly obvious.

@InternetEh @Miriamm It’s more complex than this. Uyghur people illegally kept in prison camps are being forced to make solar panels in China. To be fair China has been leading the race to the bottom for quite a while.

@InternetEh @Miriamm "China drastically improves renewable energy... BUT AT WHAT COST???"

It drives me up a wall, because I'm not even out here tryna defend the CCP. There are legitimate criticisms! We could talk about crimes against Uighur peoples or queer rights!

But the limits of the imaginations of Very Serious People are capital class pearl clutching lmao

@Miriamm if it’s anything like their farmed fish and shrimp than no thanks

@Miriamm

Billionaire-owned business is naturally concerned that an unhealthy food that the rich eat only because it is expensive despite its bad taste will now become available to others. Thereby robbing the poor rich billionaires of another of the few pleasures they have in life. They hate this!

@Miriamm Flooding market with cheap versions of stupid things deemed luxury goods/status symbols is epic praxis.
@Miriamm People in Central Asia who have traditionally relied on sturgeon and their eggs have been farming the fish successfully for a long time. The problem, and this may be true of Chinese caviar as well, is that it just doesn’t taste as good. The scarcity of high quality caviar ensures a luxury market will continue to exist as long as there are people willing to pay.
@Miriamm Worþ remembering WaPo is owned by Jeff Bezos so really screw literally everyþing about þis.
@Miriamm china could solve world hunger and america would still spin it as a bad thing.
china does do genuinely horrible things, but so does america. just because people feel freer doesn't mean it's actually true
@Jessica @Miriamm tbf anyone solving world hunger would be a terrible thing for the American wardeathpunishmentgod machine
@Miriamm What do you mean everyone can have purple dye and nutmeg now?
@Miriamm Americans only think in terms of status anyway.

@Miriamm it's fish eggs.

Just fish eggs.

It's always been fish eggs.

"Luxury good" I've never understood why anyone eats, other than for appearances…

@Miriamm I hate to break it to all of you upper-class twits, but caviar is and has always been a cheap snack for us Central Kingdom people. They’re just fish eggs, after all. Besides, the most prized part of any fish are the cheeks.
@Miriamm cheap caviar? Oh dear, I hope that doesn’t hurt any Eastern European economies…

@Miriamm granted, had they not done it the Chinese demand.would've made it unobtanium, so it's not as if they'd do it for nature...

Plus that isn't even a new thing...

Already in the USSR did they perform C-sections on Sturgeons to extract caviar - including post-op care for the fish...

@Miriamm "Democracy dies in darkness" they said right next to their logo, which is on a black background

@Miriamm I’ve stopped blindly believing things said about China. Many beliefs that I have had about China have been disproven from my own first hand experience.

I’m not going to go into detail, but clearly there is a strong media bias against China.

@Miriamm @pluralistic at $700 per 100g here in Aus for this very caviar I wouldn't call it "affordable to masses"
@Miriamm I feel bad for agreeing on something with people like Stalin, but I can't help but think especially American press does deserve the label "enemy of the people" lately.
@Miriamm and at last that one orthodox mid-fast feast day where the allowances specifically are "wine, oil and caviar" makes sense in more than a purely theoretical way again

(in before the nyt runs with this with an insinuation that it's a russo-chinese conspiracy)
@Miriamm credit where due: that’s awesome
@Miriamm There are several sustainable caviar farms in the US (Ohio, Indiana, and Florida) raising American paddlefish and sturgeon. Some of these have been operating for over 30 years. These sturgeon were photographed at an Ohio trout farm we visited last summer that is adding sturgeon to its product list.
@Miriamm Aren't diamonds still luxury items even after learning how to microwave them?