This type of thinking is precisely why we can't have nice things. It's a terrible idea that only contributes to polluting the internet. It's nothing to be proud of but rather something to be ashamed of. I really hope Google removes all of his sites from the search.
@nixCraft Are the '1,800 articles' complete fucking gibberish? Because I bet they fucking are.
What a bell-end he is.
@skyblaze @nixCraft most likely they are the type of "rewording what everyone already knows" articles. They are much to common these days
@nixCraft I'm not familiar with this, but it just goes to show how susceptible this system is to manipulation. What happens when the "top content" of the internet all becomes this and AI is trained on that content?
@ahoyboyhoy @nixCraft Same will happen what happened in the late 90tes when suddenly there was too much content (including crap) in the internet (and email inboxes), people invented tools to filter it (most successful by statistics analysis)
Now we have too much AI generated crap, so we will create tools to filter it, most likely it will be based on advanced statistics and will contain "AI" in its name.
We will burn time and energy to get rid of crap that others push to us using time and energy
@ahoyboyhoy @nixCraft there is a study about Ai eating itself & how that can degrade the AIs output. So, yes, this is gonna be a problem.
@ahoyboyhoy @nixCraft I guess we just swap the sort order lmao
@nixCraft this is sabotage. Anti competitive. Can't be legal. And proudly admits it.

@nixCraft - this is terrible, but unsurprising. Note the outcome for him, not increased sales, or better brand recognition. No he is only proud of the traffic that he has diverted to his site.

All that traffic just so that they can serve more ads - and the more people that do this, the less effective the ads are, and the harder it will be to sell advertising.

On the other hand, the Internet at large becomes enhittified, but only for as long as these ass-hats can afford to serve pages at scale.

@rhempel @nixCraft

The cost to manage that traffic isn't high and gets lower over time.

@FlorianTischner @nixCraft - agreed. We can only hope that the law of large numbers eventually catches up with them.

@nixCraft

I guess it's time to find a way how to not allow for SEO.

@nixCraft they should get on google's level, just simulate unique visitors using AI

@nixCraft It gets worse. On LinkedIn he posted a slideshow about it, and it ends with "Follow me for SEO and content tips!".

And then he gets comments like this:
"Wow, that's truly impressive! Your ability to strategically outsmart
your competitor and steal such a significant amount of SEO traffic is commendable. It takes a great deal of skill, knowledge, and perseverance to achieve such results."

What's wrong with people?

@excds @nixCraft probably also AI generated.
@toolsontech @excds @nixCraft exactly. That's not a comment written by a human.

@ianto_jones @toolsontech @excds @nixCraft I dunno, I've seen humans use sock puppets to praise themselves in similar terms before. You don't need AI to be tone-deaf and transparently insincere.

(But it helps!)

@ianto_jones @toolsontech @excds @nixCraft You could well be right, but I wouldn't bet on it - SEO sleazebags were writing that kind of bafflegab on LinkedIn years ago...
@excds @nixCraft I'm not sure those are people. Those comments are probably from robots too! No one is that dumb, except other techbros.
@excds @nixCraft i specifically hunted him down on linkedin to call him an embarrasing parasite. gotta be the change i wanna see in the world.
@excds @nixCraft Sounds like the output of AI to me…
@nixCraft they probably won't though, because SEO-farm websites tend to be packed full of ads ... also run by Google. If it takes you ten pageviews of ad-ridden garbage before you find actual content that's a huge financial win for them.

@joby @nixCraft

This is why it's always ethical to use an adblocker, no exceptions.

@nixCraft @WarnerCrocker

HustleBro culture’s pride in outright theft

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classic capitalist mindset, taking a shit in the village well and calling it a "heist"
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It's pretty creative. You gotta give him that.

Remember how mad cow syndrome (BSE) came to be?

Feeding slaughterhouse offal to livestock, which got slaughtered, unused parts fed to livestock, that got slaughtered…

Has someone brought up "Mad #AI Syndrome" already?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_cow_crisis

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/Would-it-be-thyHNd7fSh6Z0q.8vOqXMw?s=c

Mad cow crisis - Wikipedia

@oliver_schafeld
I think the term for it is model collapse
@oliver_schafeld Yes actually, MAD (Model Autophagy Disorder) is a real thing :P https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.01850
Self-Consuming Generative Models Go MAD

Seismic advances in generative AI algorithms for imagery, text, and other data types has led to the temptation to use synthetic data to train next-generation models. Repeating this process creates an autophagous (self-consuming) loop whose properties are poorly understood. We conduct a thorough analytical and empirical analysis using state-of-the-art generative image models of three families of autophagous loops that differ in how fixed or fresh real training data is available through the generations of training and in whether the samples from previous generation models have been biased to trade off data quality versus diversity. Our primary conclusion across all scenarios is that without enough fresh real data in each generation of an autophagous loop, future generative models are doomed to have their quality (precision) or diversity (recall) progressively decrease. We term this condition Model Autophagy Disorder (MAD), making analogy to mad cow disease.

arXiv.org
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Not to mention that the amount of energy it takes to generate LLM output results in regular pollution too

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This is just another version of those late night real estate infomercials where some piece of shit is on a yacht surrounded by women in bikinis and saying if you want to be like me buy my course!

@nixCraft They're bragging about 3.6 million visits in 18 months? I get that in four months on my personal hobby site.

@nixCraft "Someone bet us a quarter that we wouldn't shit in the swimming pool, so we did. We shat in the pool so much that the pool had to be drained and no one could swim in it for a week.

We look forward to getting more quarters by shitting in more swimming pools in future.

P.S. Follow us for tips on how to shit in swimming pools.”

@nixCraft This is a perfect real-life example of what I think of as the Nabokovian hero: a person who tells a story about himself that he thinks will impress the reader favorably but which has the exact opposite effect
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@nixCraft don't hate the player, hate the game?

In this case, I'm more than willing to give both parties some of the blame (hate is too strong).

But, since it has become VERY easy to do just what this bright individual has done, content ranking systems will have to adapt to circumvent trolls such as this.

@nixCraft If you encounter fake websites from idiots like that, just use https://search.google.com/search-console/report-spam to get it removed from Google
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Maybe he's an anarchist giving us a roadmap to use AI to defeat Google.

#JustWishfulThinking

@nixCraft 3.6M total traffic and 490K monthly traffic is good news to Google. Why would they remove it?

@nixCraft it's probably the same people that thing ad blocking is theft.

They are just parasites.

@nixCraft Have we really reached the point where people can raise their hands and openly admit to theft, and there are no consequences?
@nixCraft You have a gift for understatement. (Not criticizing you at all just absolutely horrified by the post you shared.) That behavior is some pretty epic scumbaggery and I hope his target call a lawyer. Cc. @lisamelton
@nixCraft To be so blind and have such a lack of self-awareness that you post this and think it's something to be proud of. Good god.

@nixCraft if this trend continues it will inevitably lead to curated directories of reliable websites, and bespoke search engines that bring only curated results.

This will take us back full circle to the world of 25 years ago, where if you wanted to find something on the web you would find a (curated) directory of websites, such as dmoz.org - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMOZ

DMOZ - Wikipedia

@nixCraft all of that stolen traffic probably has a damn near 0 saled conversion rate too.

@nixCraft Depends on the motivations.

The fact that he's openly revealing what he did and how (I could replicate this in 24 hours) seems fairly white-hat to me.

We should celebrate those who openly expose faults in major infrastructure. That pushes the owners to reckon with those faults.

@nixCraft the first clue was the Blue check ;)

@nixCraft I wish I could say his position was an outlier.

I recently sat on an interview panel to hire several “in-house” SEO positions at my company and flat out rejected many because they talked like this.

There’s no strategy or even attempt to try to produce something of real value, it‘s just creating a tool to continuously throw shit into a fan aimed at everyone else.

@nixCraft I'm morbidly interested to see what happens when you get four or five layers deep of this.
@nixCraft the thing that bothers me is that he knows he is stealing his audience, has made zero effort on it, and is still bragging about it.
@nixCraft what’s worse is he seems to be advertising a service that generates spam sites from AI. So you’re giving him free advertising
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Classic SEO bro shit, but with fancy new tech
@nixCraft I think we are all missing the point. He is showing us how easy it is to mess with SEO and why SEO sucks.
@nixCraft mb, I read up on it and I take my statement back.
@nixCraft ohje! Das geht, aber ist einfach nur fies.