Someone yelled at me for posting monochrome photos again.

That's kind of annonying, but this place still has fewer Nazis than that other place, so I'll be sticking around (along with my dreary monochrome photos, devoid of all color and joy as they may be).

This is the third time I've gotten complaints about this, as far as I can tell, all from actual non-otherwise-troll people. Apparently there's a small but vocal minority here that find black & white photos inherently "depressing", and insist on content warnings and labels for them.

I don't want to cause anyone needless depression or grief, but I'm afraid I find this expectation unreasonable and unworkable. No one can possibly anticipate every idiosyncratic thing that someone might react to.

@mattblaze as someone who shot *exclusively* on Tri-X Pan for years, these people do not know what they hell they're talking about.
@mattblaze You're kidding about this, right? Please tell me you're kidding that you're getting people telling you that black and white photos are "depressing". Please, please. You're kidding. Right?
@lauren I wish. I so wish.
@mattblaze @lauren I would just block such people immediately. Normally I don’t block for mundane disagreement, but that way they wouldn’t ever have to see any of my CW-free posts. Life’s too short to argue about that

@mattblaze @lauren

I'm a little puzzled at what people CW sometimes, but it's up to them. Gatekeeping other peoples work like b&w photos is just strange. I occasionally get annoyed by ridiculous amounts of saturation or HDR, mostly on Twitter or Reddit rather than here, but I wouldn't expect or demand to be sheltered from it.

Edit: Posted a b&w photo in support.

@lauren @mattblaze Oh, I'd believe it. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy " is the rule for social networks of this style.

I "met" someone on here once who I got into a heated argument with over whether HTTPS did more harm than good (not in a "boy is security hard to implement security right" sense, but in an "enables pedophiles" sense; their response to the reasonable counterpoint if "it also enables all online commerce" was "Well everyone should just use wired connections where the physical medium is trusted." I ended up just having to block them because some people you just can't.

On the CW topic: I think the question of who's responsibility filtering content is isn't settled etiquette in the Fediverse yet (beyond some broad-brush common consensus like "Should probably flag NSFW"). I doubt the system scales reasonably if too much onus is put on the content source, and I prefer enabling clients to do tight-grained filtering like "Oof, I like Matt Blaze's commentary but his art is depressing me... Hey my client, keep showing me Matt's stuff but default his images to 'blurred'" is probably what the future looks like (maybe with a way to easily share those filter options around).

@mark @mattblaze I have never used a CW on a post here, and I have no intention of ever doing so.
@lauren @mattblaze @mark The admin of my instance requires CWs only for nudity and/or sexualized imagery, violence, and pulsating/flashing images; plus as it’s a nominally Star Trek-themed instance we’re also good about CWing spoilers. I have no intention of CWing anything else; anyone who doesn’t like what I post is welcome to block or filter me (I use hashtags liberally).
@SazeracLA @mattblaze @mark Exactly -- unfollow, block, and filter at your leisure. Also, my site admin and I never disagree, because he is me.
@lauren @mark @mattblaze Your site admin is the bee’s knees.
@SazeracLA @lauren @mark @mattblaze Ironically, the thing that someone most recently complained about me posting without a content warning was a close-up of a bee.

@mikemccaffrey @SazeracLA @lauren @mark @mattblaze I remember reading Nat. Geographic as a kid and turning the page to a full-page, borderless spread of bees. Pulled my fingers away like they were touching a hot stove and slammed it shut in horror.

This may explain my mantra "Eight legs good. Six legs bad."

@lauren @mark @mattblaze

They're handy for punchlines and such.

@lauren
@mattblaze

I have in general found Fediverse CW culture really strange and oddly focused. It's kind of like when you have a food that is supposed to have some spice mixed evenly into the food but it wasn't mixed right and the spice sticks together so mostly the food is a bit bland except occasionally it's suddenly ALL SPICE.

That's what I find Fediverse CW culture like: if a post goes viral and spreads it'll run into clumps of users with the most quixotic CW expectations.

@lauren @mattblaze please put CWs on anything with paisley. Oh man. Looks like little bacteria. Unless it's blue and gold, then it's fine.
@mattblaze yeah mastodon can be kinda wild that way. The unfollow is right there mududes.
@quinn And it's free!
@mattblaze shit who is this dude I’ve been paying for unfollows?

@quinn UAAS (unfollow as a service) sounds like a VC-fundable business opportuity -- it's got success written all over it!!!!!!

"What if you run out of people to unfollow?"

"Let me just show you this hockey-stick diagram of insufferable people on the internet ..."
@mattblaze

@jdp23 @quinn @mattblaze There are paid services for unsubscribing other paid services, so uaas has a potential ;) Going back to images and warnings. My triggers are my responsibility. Also, I think we slowly drift towards a direction where dislikes or different preferences are mistaken as triggers. That's not good. Creators don't have to curate content for me. It's my job. Of course, CWs have their purpose (nsfw, sexual content, violent events), but we can't put everything behind them.
@quinn @mattblaze I keep hearing the guy from the mattress commercials. “Your next unfollow is FREEEEEEE!”

@mattblaze Oh wow.. So are they upset over your avatar too?

I agree, this is a bit overboard.. If it bothers them so much, there are plenty of tools they can use to block you.

@mattblaze I’m all for content warnings where appropriate but this is getting into parody territory…
@mattblaze Bah humbug. There's a long history of black and white fine art photography. If they can't handle it, that's their issue.
@mattblaze I plan to start posting B&W photos in solidarity with Matt.
@mattblaze [heads to Matt’s threads from yesterday to see who to premptively block before I post whatever I want on my feed…]
@mattblaze "I'll take your suggestion under careful consideration." (::under breath:: "Bless your heart.")

@mattblaze Yeesh.

Quick and easy solution: block ‘em.

This way, they don’t have to see your B&Ws and you don’t have to listen to their insensate blather.

@mattblaze The world is going mental and American Puritanism mixed with “wokeness” (as opposed to just being woke, which I think I am) is a great factor. I was banned from a FB group because I quoted a Monty Python joke (“Loretta”), as it was deemed an assault on trans people.

This is a version of a very thorny problem -- otherwise lovely progressive leftists so rigid in their worldview that they can tolerate no flexibility.

Frankly it gives the right-wing ammunition and that alone is unforgivable.

@dogemocenigo @mattblaze

@zagone @mattblaze It is indeed very thorny. I posit that ANYTHING we do or say can hurt somebody else.

The Monty Python Loretta scene can be viewed as a parody of intersectionalism: we cannot forget the context, it is not actually poking fun at trans people, but at the folks embracing ALL causes. It is also a way to raise awareness about trans people. My son (13) laughed like a madman but then also started to ask me about the plight of those that are born in a body they do not identify with and how they can cope with the problem that even a transition cannot be “perfect”. Good satire educates.

So, in the intolerance there is also condescension: we are asked to think critically but are assumed not to be able to.

Condescension -- that is a good word to add to this discussion.

And yes, Monty Python (or almost anything) needs to be viewed in context. Parody can be awareness-building as you say.

@dogemocenigo @mattblaze

@mattblaze
Block 'em. Some people just gotta control others. Also, they may know by now that this annoys you. And they do it anyway. Another good reason to block 'em.
@mattblaze yeah no, they can always unfollow you or take action on their end for this kind of thing.
@mattblaze It's possible to set one's client to not display any media without a click. If they're _that_ sensitive, perhaps they should explore that option. Please continue sharing your very nice photos!

@mattblaze - Post a link to "Paint It Black" by the Rolling Stones and watch them wallow in it.

I agree. There are common courtesies. The rest is up to them to sort out their environment.

@tinker Paul Simon sometimes changed the lyrics he sings for "Kodachrome" from "everything looks worse in black and white" to "everything looks best in black and white".
@mattblaze They are unreasonable. They ARE trolls. Block them.
@mattblaze you've mentioned this before and it is by far the strangest reason I've heard for people to be upset
@mattblaze I mean this in the most sincerely kind way I can to the people who are asking for this: if you are in a place in life where a black and white landscape photo sends your mental state spiraling, the open internet is the absolute last place you should be clicking about randomly until that’s sorted
@0xabad1dea @mattblaze Well said. If I were in such a situation I should steer away from the internet, or prepare myself when I have to. Of course it is not ideal, but I *do* have certain … phobias? for lack of a better word. And I have to brace myself when I know I may be facing such a trigger.

@0xabad1dea @[email protected]

I know there are profile settings you can pick to set default image handling. The exact details depend on how you're accessing the Fediverse. That sort of user can set up his access to protect himself.

I have several disabilities of my own. I have some strong opinions about the way some people politicise health issues. Very strong opinions, which could be be sung to the tune of "Colonel Bogey", and would need a Content Warning of their own.

@mattblaze Screw the people that try to tell you how to mastodon.

If you are not out offending in some troll manner, it all adds variety and builds community. Doing the same shit all the time is boring.

There is no lawn to get off of, even if they think they own one.

@mattblaze @CStamp Good for you drawing a line! Sincerely🙏!
@mattblaze - I don't get the sense of entitlement to tell folks what to post. Like... shut up. Fuck off. Choke on a chicken wing. Go make your own photography. The sheer rudeness to tell someone else what to post on their channel, just... it's silly. Just proper silly.

@tinker @mattblaze

this is baffling to me... there are whole hashtag sets on insagram and flickr dedicated to B&W.

yikes...

who is complaining and yelling about B&W photography...

@tinker @mattblaze Also if it bothers you mute or block. It's easier and even politer than trying to change someone's behavior, especially over stylistic differences. If you don't want to see something... You have a button for that.
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@mattblaze why do they even care? If someone starts posting stuff I don't want to see then I mute, filter, or unfollow.

"Oh no! I have to use one of the multitudinous tools that allow me to structure my environment to my preferences!"

@mattblaze maybe tint them green like the Matrix
@mattblaze That's a new one. Why are they against monochrome?
@orci more importantly, why do they care that @mattblaze posts so
@mattblaze Do these dipshits not understand how to stop following an account?