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⛈️ Information ⛈️Airbus open sourced their new cockpit font. Make it the default for all your embedded projects, because it's REALLY good and has real testing in difficult environments!
🦾ChatGPT hyphen🤖@Elucidating
I could really use a good monospace font, thanks! Fira Mono I use now sucks at lower resolutions, Cascadia Code works best for me, but it's not free, I stole it by taking it out of Windows
I could really use a good monospace font, thanks! Fira Mono I use now sucks at lower resolutions, Cascadia Code works best for me, but it's not free, I stole it by taking it out of Windows
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven@m0xEE @Elucidating But, but... https://github.com/microsoft/cascadia-code
SIL open font license. 😃
GitHub - microsoft/cascadia-code: This is a fun, new monospaced font that includes programming ligatures and is designed to enhance the modern look and feel of the Windows Terminal.
This is a fun, new monospaced font that includes programming ligatures and is designed to enhance the modern look and feel of the Windows Terminal. - microsoft/cascadia-code
TheAnymouseProphet@m0xEE
Space Mono from Google Fonts is a good monospace font and is open source.
Kevin Karhan 
@SocialJusticeHeals @m0xEE @Elucidating Personally I do love #UbuntuMono but the #UbuntuFontLicense by @ubuntu is not as open as #SIL #OFL.
@kkarhan
Ubuntu Mono is great and their sans serif font is hands down one of my all time favourite fonts, but yeah, it's not as open as we'd probably like to.
@SocialJusticeHeals @Elucidating @ubuntu
Ubuntu Mono is great and their sans serif font is hands down one of my all time favourite fonts, but yeah, it's not as open as we'd probably like to.
@SocialJusticeHeals @Elucidating @ubuntu
@m0xEE @Elucidating @SocialJusticeHeals @ubuntu And whilst it really works for corporate branding, I guess WorkSans and OpenSans will have to make due where the UFL says nope.
@m0xEE @Elucidating @SocialJusticeHeals @ubuntu consider #LEXEND as alternative:
https://mstdn.social/@kkarhan/111067032555575709
https://mstdn.social/@kkarhan/111067032555575709
Kevin Karhan :verified: (@[email protected])
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Maybe #LEXEND can be a good alternative? https://www.lexend.com/
Tom@m0xEE @Elucidating @SocialJusticeHeals @kkarhan @ubuntu +1, I've used it so much over the years, no matter what OS I was on at the time.
@ttntm @m0xEE @Elucidating @SocialJusticeHeals @ubuntu yeah.
It's iconic.
I can recommend #LEXEND for regular text and many other fonts I put in a repo:
https://github.com/KBtechnologies/fonts
https://github.com/KBtechnologies/fonts/blob/main/INDEX.tsv
Another nice #font is #B612 which is the #Typeface used by #Airbus on Instruments amd Checklists and is aimed at ease of legibility and was stress-tested and certified for civil aviation use, so it's well designed.
https://mstdn.social/@kkarhan/111067244693459157
https://lexend.com/
https://b612-font.com/
StefanoGaivota
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Geoff Mackenzie@m0xEE @Elucidating font preferences are quite individual but you might like Spleen (https://github.com/fcambus/spleen). I like it for code, especially at lower resolutions
@radicalabacus @Elucidating
Exactly! The eternal quest for perfect font is very personal for each of us
Spleen looks nice! And it's even in Void repos. Thank you!
Exactly! The eternal quest for perfect font is very personal for each of us
Spleen looks nice! And it's even in Void repos. Thank you!
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hayalci@m0xEE @Elucidating cascadia code is great (i LOVE the funky k and 4, especially) it's available at github, no need to steal anything https://github.com/microsoft/cascadia-code
GitHub - microsoft/cascadia-code: This is a fun, new monospaced font that includes programming ligatures and is designed to enhance the modern look and feel of the Windows Terminal.
This is a fun, new monospaced font that includes programming ligatures and is designed to enhance the modern look and feel of the Windows Terminal. - microsoft/cascadia-code
@hayalci
That's great! Despite being designed for the new Windows Terminal, Ubuntu Mono and Fira Mono/Fira Code — all look good in it, maybe even better than Cascadia Code does. I only have one Windows machine and it has a pretty good screen — probably because of that, but maybe because of how Windows renders fonts in modern apps.
But when I try to use them on one of my machines with a lower resolution display with something like st, they all look meh. Cascadia Code on the other hand just shines!
@Elucidating
That's great! Despite being designed for the new Windows Terminal, Ubuntu Mono and Fira Mono/Fira Code — all look good in it, maybe even better than Cascadia Code does. I only have one Windows machine and it has a pretty good screen — probably because of that, but maybe because of how Windows renders fonts in modern apps.
But when I try to use them on one of my machines with a lower resolution display with something like st, they all look meh. Cascadia Code on the other hand just shines!
@Elucidating
@m0xEE Yeah I was careful to qualify my recommendation with "embedded" where small fontcache size and fixed contexts are the norm.
Certainly not a good terminal or editor font.
Pete Johanson@Elucidating @m0xEE yeah, I'm curious to try this on some ssd1306 and sharp memory displays to see how it holds up.
@petejohanson @m0xEE I hope you share when you do. I'd love to see it.
Arina-Artemis@Elucidating It looks interesting but heck if the glyphset isn't kind of... Pathetic.
@arina_artemis It's meant for use on airplane consoles, etc. Hence my recommendation about embedded projects. It's minimal to be usable everywhere.
Hexa@arina_artemis @Elucidating I'm very disappointed to see there are still new fonts being made that don't even support the full Latin Extended-A block
Barry Rowlingson@arina_artemis @Elucidating Pretty sure the glyphset shown on the web page isn't the full glyphset in the font. Here's B612 MonoRegular opened in font-manager:
@geospacedman @Elucidating Oohh. Yeah that's much better.
LucyKemnitzer@arina_artemis @Elucidating Came here to say that.
Greg Lloyd@Elucidating 🧵Airbus B622 font
“In December 2018, B612 has been published on Google Fonts with an open source license (OFL) and the source has been put on Github.”
Daniel Núñez@Elucidating I have dyslexia, not as grave as other people, but still.
This font was really pleasant to read.
Mathew Kane@danmarce
Same. Mine is mild as well, but it's enough that I spend quite a bit of time reading, re-reading, and proofing simple emails. Any font that helps alleviate that gives me more time in my day to do other things.
@Elucidating
Same. Mine is mild as well, but it's enough that I spend quite a bit of time reading, re-reading, and proofing simple emails. Any font that helps alleviate that gives me more time in my day to do other things.
@Elucidating
@berkough @danmarce @Elucidating So I guess #OpenDyslexic may be a tad too strong?
Personally I wished the "FE-Schrift" (Germany's standard font for License plates since the late 70s, optimized for OCR and character differenciation) was OpenSourced because it really has a lot of legibility bonuses.
@kkarhan @berkough @Elucidating
Yeah, didn't work for me. There was another one I can't remember now.
I think my country (Ecuador) also uses "FE-Schrift" or it is really similar.
@danmarce @berkough @Elucidating well, a lot of counties do.
In fact, #Cuba and many others are known to buy License Plate Pressing Machines from #Germany...
After all, those are pretty affordable since the Registration Stamp is what makes them valid "documents"...
@berkough @danmarce @Elucidating Maybe #LEXEND can be a good alternative?
@danmarce @berkough @Elucidating After all, to me it looks like an optimized hybrid between #OpenSans, New Century #Schoolbook and #OpenDyslexic without being very obvious yet very elegant and optimized to read.
💉😷🌿🇺🇦🇺🇳🇪🇺Oiselarius (he/him)@kkarhan @danmarce @berkough @Elucidating I just tried Lexend. It’s nice but after seeing the B612 Mono, I have to say the latter is easier to read on the screen.
@Oiselarius @danmarce @berkough @Elucidating OFC #B612 will have had extensive testing under adverse conditions such as vibrations, G-Forces,dim & no light ad well as harsh ciunterlight whereas #LEXEND is optimized for everyday reading from paper and education like in classrooms...
I put both into my #Fonts repo:
https://github.com/KBtechnologies/fonts/blob/main/INDEX.tsv
@kkarhan @Oiselarius @berkough @Elucidating yeah, I would like b612 in the user interface, on the phone. When you are on the move, traveling or using the phone as a map, a good "battle tested" font would work.
For a book, blog posts Lexend.
I remember back then the impact that Tahoma and latter Segoe UI had on me
@danmarce @Oiselarius @berkough @Elucidating
OFC that's what said fonts are optimized for.
Only weirdos like me want to use #UbuntuMono on everything...
@kkarhan @Oiselarius @berkough @Elucidating I checked that one. Is good.
Maybe that's how I got into programming, and monotype fonts are the real reason.
@danmarce @Oiselarius @berkough @Elucidating
Yeah, but the #UFL is not #OFL and whilst it's more permissible than any Font #MicrosoftOffice ever included, I know why @ubuntu chose that license and I do consider moving to #B612Mono instead.
#SunGalantDemi is also nice but that's one of the few #Serif #Monospaced fonts and this really is off for a lot of people - espechally for neurotypicals...
https://github.com/KBtechnologies/fonts/blob/main/INDEX.tsv#L24
Needless to say I want to find out how I can force it into #OS1337...
@danmarce @Oiselarius @berkough @Elucidating @ubuntu
Also both #LEXEND and #B612 do have #monospaced versions as part of their #FontFamily...
https://github.com/KBtechnologies/fonts/blob/main/INDEX.tsv
Also #monospace'd B612 looks really awesome on #OLED's like the ones used in #Cockpits of #Airbus planes...
@kkarhan Hmmm, I might have to install B612 and use it in my terminal 😀.
@berkough yeah, this looks even better than #UbuntuMono and maybe I'll switch to that font as well - if not for my own website then at least for OS/1337...
@berkough It should look excellent...
After all if testers under harsh vibrations and forces can read it then shure as hell it'll be crisp af on a terminal...
Andrew McNutt@danmarce @Elucidating had the same thought/exp
Lexi@Elucidating Really cool, though it's a shame that it looks like its Unicode coverage isn't that substantial.
Gorgeous na Shock!@Elucidating Very excited to die-by-wire in my text editor! 😌
Kim Spence-Jones 🇬🇧😷@Elucidating I do like the extreme clarity in distinguishing upper case i, lower case L and numeral 1. For coding, this is a massive help.
Jason Levine@KimSJ @Elucidating Unfortunately, it doesn't carry that clarity into distinguishing zero and the uppercase letter "o".
Clifton RoystonIt doesn't put a bar in the 0 for zero, but it makes it quite narrow and the O wider and rounder. Putting a bar in the zero causes problems of its own, particularly for people whose native languages use the Ø glyph.
🇳🇱🇪🇺Jeroen🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦@CliftonR @delfuego @KimSJ @Elucidating Source Code Pro solves this by adding a dot in the middle of the 0.
@jeroen94704 @CliftonR @delfuego @Elucidating
Yes, a dot in the middle of the zero was a thought I had too, but I wonder whether that could too easily be confused with an 8, especially at small font sizes? It would be interesting to read a report on the reasons for the various decisions that were made.
Yes, a dot in the middle of the zero was a thought I had too, but I wonder whether that could too easily be confused with an 8, especially at small font sizes? It would be interesting to read a report on the reasons for the various decisions that were made.
@KimSJ @CliftonR @delfuego @[email protected] I experimented a little and at the smallest size (8pts) on a 1080p laptop screen set to 100% scaling it is indeed hard to distinguish 0 and 8. But realistically nobody would be able to work with such small text (the original screenshot is 17x8 pixels in size:
@jeroen94704 @CliftonR @delfuego At that point, 8 and B become an issue too… there are limits to what’s sane! 😁
@KimSJ @CliftonR @delfuego Fair enough 😀. I also remembered the Proggy set of small-size bitmap fonts (https://github.com/bluescan/proggyfonts). In the tiny version the "8" and "B" differ just 3 pixels and the capitals O and Q just 2:
AlisonW ♿🏳️🌈♾️@CliftonR @delfuego @KimSJ @Elucidating
Except it doesn't appear to include _any_ accented characters or diacritics, which may be fine for aeroplane displays but not for much else.
Except it doesn't appear to include _any_ accented characters or diacritics, which may be fine for aeroplane displays but not for much else.