Hey. So as major platforms start to fall apart, don't necessarily look for the next big one.

Dust off your blog.

Go back to establishing web-rings.

RSS feeds. Remember those?

This is the way to share good stuff. You don't need a centralized platform for that.

As hams, we should know that.

@KC8JC

Hope upon hope, that ham radio clubs abandon their FaceBook bullshit, and go freshen up the website they've been ignoring for YEARS.

@KC8JC for anyone else, the Fediverse.radio #WebRing is up to 15 sites! https://ring.fediverse.radio/
WebRing Fediverse.Radio

@KC8JC No need to dust off my blog. It's been up and running for more than 20 years now! :) https://kb6nu.com
KB6NU's Ham Radio Blog

@KC8JC What about Web forums and BBSes?

@tk

Depends on the forum. Not all of them allow for searching and keep things where we can see them in the future. There's so much bad forum software out there that create doors where we need windows.

@KC8JC Last year I had legitimately looked into starting a MUD, until I realized exactly how labor-intensive populating the thing would be.
@KC8JC I’m totally in!
@mode13h
I have a blog, I just forget to fill it with words ...
@KC8JC
@nGFX @KC8JC I can feel this. I should write more often, too…

@mode13h @nGFX

You don't have to write much. And it doesn't have to be great to be good for yourself and someone else, right?

It's an opportunity.

@KC8JC
Oh, I do have plans for writing, I just notice "another week has passed" without a single word written — but I do have ... erm ... plans 😃
@mode13h

@KC8JC
Thinking about it, I should set away a few minutes for a post tomorrow.

@mode13h

@KC8JC @mode13h
Not to beat the dead horse any further, but I actually DID a new post today.

Not quite what I had in mind, but it's a start.

@nGFX @KC8JC Awesome! We all should write more often! :>
@mode13h @KC8JC
Yes, we should.
@nGFX @KC8JC but we most likely won’t… :-P

@mode13h @nGFX

It starts with one post, right? Even one a week is something.

@KC8JC WEBRINGS. OMG. Everything old is new - and relevant - again.
@KC8JC OMG I had forgotten about webrings!
@KC8JC People ran away from RSS feeds after Google Reader collapsed, but there were plenty of good RSS sites out there. Feedly's my fave.
@KC8JC I keep harping on that they just need to add a "reply" function to RSS and a suitable client could do a lot of what people want
@KC8JC Always great to see other hams here. 👋 from W4JLN.
@fahrni
@joshua @fahrni Check out mastodon.radio. There are a lot of us around!

@KC8JC
Disregard modernity.
Return to IRC.

Some of us never left.

@KC8JC agreed on all points.

how about a decentralized NNTP network designed so hams can post to discussion groups over packet radio, if they so desire, too?

i'm working on server software called #tomo. it's a user-owned and operated bulletin board system, that syncs up with other tomo servers across a network.

blog/info here: http://tomo.city

i'd really, really like to make supporting hams a central part of it, if there is interest in having discussion groups without the centralized platform BS.

@vga256 I’ll check it out! Sounds great to me!
@KC8JC awesome. i'm all ears if you have recommendations for making the protocol/server useful for the ham community.

@vga256 @KC8JC NNTP over 1200 Baud AFSK #packetradio with AX.25 encapsulated IPv4 is really slow and inefficient, let's move on from 1975 technology ;)

https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/ is a popular #NNTP server software used by a number of large servers that I know a little bit about. Should work well via AREDN/HamWAN/HAMNET as those networks are IPv4-native

INN

@DO2SGF @KC8JC INN is a misery to install, configure and maintain. one of the major aspects of tomo I'm working on is maintainability and user friendliness.
@KC8JC alternatives to webrings are planet-like sites, like planet.python.org et al.
@KC8JC So, you're saying the next big social media growth industry for corporations to insert themselves into is web ring software? :D
@KC8JC I really miss webrings, counters, and "Under Construction" animated gifs 🫠
@KC8JC before I saw your account name I was picturing cooked hams writing blogposts... 

@jasonnab

Yeah...this toot has been shared a LOT! Kinda funny to see it bounce around.

@KC8JC
I never understood the thing where hams used Windows apps, then I realized that open source wasn't that prevalent among hardware folk.
I think the Facebook sites are a by product of the "I don't understand software" generation.

At defcon in 2013, I saw the inked kids with piercings studying for their exam, I realized that there was a shift in #HamRadio , it was no longer about how far or how many contacts, it was about how many apps or how much traffic you could run.

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@KC8JC Agree. Same stuff is happening with podcasting, going back to its roots. Podcastindex.org leading the charge for value for value models.
@KC8JC my old Blog ist on Blogger, I need a new Platform 🤔 Writefreely probably

@gabri IMO those were a bit hit and miss. It was like Stubmleupon, but more localised. I was a lot into web comics back in the days and both, as a user and web site owner I didn't find the web rings to drive in that much traffic.

Search engines were insanely more effective, especially before SEO went insane. You could literally have the topic of your web site in the page name and people interested in that would flock in. Soon after it was just a swamp of "portal" sites fighting for the keywords

@KC8JC I'm a lapsed ham. I did great on the theory, but when it came to speaking I was worried I'd be stepping on toes... so I let it lapse. Chalk it up to my specific mix of #ActuallyAutistic traits.

I've used RSS a ton. I don't ever plan to get back to it.

Mastodon is my RSS now. Why?

* Curation. RSS feeds that curate news stories do exist, but this brings me to my second point.

* Discoverability. It was hard to discover good RSS feeds.

It seems to me Mastodon (or the Fediverse if you want to take a wider look) is much better than RSS ever was.

@yourautisticlife

I agree with your points and it's all dependent upon what you're trying to accomplish.

I'm looking for a way to curate information in a durable fashion. Writing something up about a piece of gear or solving a problem with software and giving that a place to live where it can be retrieved in 3 or 4 years time. My argument is that looking for yet another giant social network platform owned by a single entity is a bad idea.

@KC8JC Sounds like you might be interested in the work that @aral is doing at the Small Technology Foundation (https://small-tech.org/)
Small Technology Foundation: Home

We’re a tiny and independent two-person not-for-profit based in Ireland. We’re working on building the Small Web.

@KC8JC Besides smaller platforms aren't filled with ads/trackers from people looking to exploit your data to make a buck.

@KC8JC I'm thinking that the real way we get around this is by creating a new way of interfacing with the Internet that is harder to capture.

Mastodon compared to Facebook or Twitter is a good example. There are still shortcomings here, but one can imagine an evolution of these systems that is engaging in a way that is healthy and that doesn't require the difficult infrastructure.

We have now hopefully seen the limitation of offloading this function to a big corporation, but less fortunate is the reality of how challenging it is to create a thing that is both healthy for people and keeps them interested in it, doesn't go bankrupt, and cannot be taken over in some way... I don't think it's impossible, but I definitely think it's hard and a never ending fight.

@KC8JC web rings are good, and curate peer/referrals, too.

@KC8JC Yeah, I really need to get my amateur license. And start blogging again. Thanks for the inspiration.

... are there any usable RSS readers out there? In ye olde days I was fond of the one in KDE (forgot the name, kaggregator?), but I could not find any other good program. Something always annoyed me...

@KC8JC Post an OPML file of your RSS subscriptions somewhere obvious.

https://www.voidstar.com/opml.xml

@KC8JC web rings are something I’ve not heard of for quite awhile. Been a goal of mine to start our own sites and network in order to fully control the flow of data.

@KC8JC
You can also follow any Mastodon account as an RSS feed by adding .rss to the end of the profile address.

I just tested this in Thunderbird by following myself.