How long will USB-C be the most common & standard connector for consumer electronics? (there can be updates to voltage and protocols, but it must be backwards compatible to what we have now)
Until 2030 at most
35.5%
Until 2035
40.4%
Until 2045
11.3%
Beyond 2055
12.8%
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@futurebird
I'm thinking it'll drag on for an extra 5-ish years beyond what it maybe should due to the EU regulations requiring its use. So I'm going with 2035 at least? Pure layperson guessing, that.
@futurebird And those extra 5 years are totally a price worth paying for USB-C becoming a de-facto global standard from now til then. Makes my life easier that most relevant devices we have at home & work are now on USB-C.

@Gurre I think as we move into a world where wasting energy, materials will carry greater prices, hazards we will need slower standards. This whole “new device every year” economy isn’t sustainable. It isn’t even fun or amusing anymore. If we do the right thing hardware changes will slow. We never are forced to learn to maximize a system before a new one replaces it. What if we tried that?

Inductive tech has a place but it will never be as fast as copper.

@Gurre

USB-C! USB-C for 100 years!!

I can plug in a lamp made in the 1920s and it works! What happened to that??
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@futurebird @Gurre So, I work in the electric vehicle world (EV Journalist) and I've got to say I'm getting very fed up with the constant charging standard changes in the EV world...

The constant standards change *seems* to come from companies wanting an edge over the competition, but it's leading to obsolescence at a scary rate. Neither sustainable nor equitable.

The *smart* way to use technology going forward is to reward companies that provide long life and support for their products well beyond their original production life-cycle.

#RightToRepair #OpenSource both play a part, but we also need legislators to get on to the side of #SustainableManufacturing.

As to your lamp? Yes, you can plug in and it works - but you can ALSO upgrade it to have a better, more efficient lamp, or replace parts as they fail to keep it safe, and functional.

We don't have that right now with the majority of tech or automotive products :(

@Aminorjourney @futurebird @Gurre Well, the @EU_Commission saw that shit long enough and then decided to make the #Type2 connector mandatory for good...

Personally, I expect #BatteryElectric vehicles to die out in favour of #Methanol #FuelCell #ElectricVehicles simply because #Lithium and #Cobalt are #BloodMinerals and should be avoided since they can't be effectively recycled anyway ...

@Aminorjourney @futurebird @Gurre @EU_Commission

Espechally once the #EconomiesOfScale that #GasStations have will bring #Methanol prices down and availability up.

Noone's gonna "fast-charge" for 30+ min unless they travel or rather commute so little they should not have demand for a car to begin with...

@kkarhan @futurebird @Gurre @EU_Commission We DO need to decarbonise our transportation rapidly. That means we DO need to end use of the internal combustion engine.

However, that also means we need to:

1) Invest in affordable, clean, reliable mass transit (most people live in urban and suburban areas)
2) Incentivise home-working and remote working as a normal, acceptable way to work. Splitting time between home and an office is also a great half-way house that can reduce pollution and eliminate commuting needs.
3) Invest in more safe cycle paths and remove stigma around micromobility.
4) Design multi-modal travel that allow easier commutes using multiple different types of travel.
5) Incentivise car clubs for longer-distance needs.
6) Expect automakers provide third-party access to EV parts specs and repair procedures AFTER they no-longer make the model (as we often see with ICE vehicles) so replacement parts and after-sales service can remain affordable and easy-to-obtain.

(cont.)

@kkarhan @futurebird @Gurre @EU_Commission

I’ve been driving electric since 2006. My first electric car was £2,000 and I've owned many since. I rarely need to fast charge, even though I live 35 miles from my nearest big city. That's more than most people *need* to drive in a day, and for context, I just did a 29-mile electric bicycle ride the other day...

CarCulture in the US is very different to Europe, (and one of the reasons I miss living in Europe). But with the right incentives and policies, I think it's possible to make a switch.

@Aminorjourney @futurebird @Gurre @EU_Commission

The problem with the #USA is that #BigCar was allowed to destroy #PublicTransport by literally buying it up for the purpose of destroying it.

I mean everyone from @notjustbikes to #AdamSomething did already make a feckton of videos diving into that shit...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACXaFyB_-8s&list=PLf8qfSvZiyEvn1y2FGisTi6U3AeLlvC-b

Elon Musk's Loop is a Bizarrely Stupid Idea

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Proton-exchange membrane fuel cell - Wikipedia

@kkarhan @futurebird @Gurre @EU_Commission My apologies. I mis-read the reference and didn't see the previous message.

FCVs have a LOT of issues. But again, that's for a different thread :)

@Aminorjourney @futurebird @Gurre @EU_Commission

np.
I do acknowledge these issues OFC...

Personally I want the counter-development to the #SuperUselessVehicle|s in the form of #PersonalLightVehicle|s that are sleek and efficient in space and resource useage.

Cuz if we can't use #PublicTransport, #Bike|s or our Feet, we should at least decide not to drag 2+ metric tons of metals and plastics [and at least >500kg of batteries] with us everywhere...
https://github.com/KBtechnologies/PLV

GitHub - KBtechnologies/PLV: Personal Light Vehicle - Specification

Personal Light Vehicle - Specification. Contribute to KBtechnologies/PLV development by creating an account on GitHub.

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@kkarhan @futurebird @Gurre @EU_Commission More bikes. More Bikes.

I mean, my last comment about me living 35 miles out of town but still riding 29 miles on an e-bike shows how little many of us need cars.

@kkarhan In the repo link, this is the first time I'm hearing that most people buy SUV's because of their ego rather than a rational decision, because where I live they're pretty much what you need at minimum in the winter if you don't want to get stuck in the snow (this is mainly due to clearance available with them; this also works for equivalent-clearance trucks but I don't want to be seen driving a truck unless I needed to, seems too macho).

@DrewNaylor Exceptions from the norm exist.

Granted if someone's stuck in a developing nation where roads are unpaved and/or unmaintained that is a valid point.

@DrewNaylor
Tho what I consider #SuperUselessVehicle|s are'n like actually #offroad-capable 4x4's like a #Jeep [or anything falling under EC Vehicle Class M1G:

- front and rear axle can be powered.
- have a differential lock
- Can evidently handle an incline of 30% ...

@DrewNaylor

...and have at least 5 of the following:
1. Approach Angle Front: min. 25°
2. Departure Angle Back: min. 20°
3. Breakover Angle: min.. 20°
4. Ground Clearance Front: min. 180mm
5. Ground Clearance Back : min. 180mm
6. Ground Clearance between Axles: min. 200mm

@DrewNaylor Granted I do know places even in Germany where people had that same problem and thus drove #Jeep|s just to be able to be at work on time at 0630 local cuz roads didn't get cleared until 0900 local at their place, and their long driveway wan't paved at all - despite being owned by the town and being charged for the upkeep of it as sole users.
https://mastodon.online/@DrewNaylor/110801703784792857
Drew Naylor (@[email protected])

@[email protected] In the repo link, this is the first time I'm hearing that most people buy SUV's because of their ego rather than a rational decision, because where I live they're pretty much what you need at minimum in the winter if you don't want to get stuck in the snow (this is mainly due to clearance available with them; this also works for equivalent-clearance trucks but I don't want to be seen driving a truck unless I needed to, seems too macho).

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@DrewNaylor but for the most part, we've to agree that this isn't the norm for most people...

Also there are small 4x4's that can fulfill those classifications, like the #Suzuki #Jimny which I'd not consider a #SuperUselessVehicle but a compact Offroader!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_Jimny

Suzuki Jimny - Wikipedia

@kkarhan Yeah, it's just like how most people don't really need cars to begin with if there were proper public transport in more places that lack them, notably the US. Nice that there are compact 4x4's.
@DrewNaylor OFC, whilst #Japan has excellent #PublicTransport in the big urban centers like #Tokyo, #Osaka, #Kyoto and others, a lot of smaller villages don't have that at all, but then again people in Japan rarely travel with their own car long trips, but rather choose their excellent train infrastructure wherever available.

@DrewNaylor
I mean #Shinkansen and the subsequent german copy (#ICE) really are fast and only beaten by #TGV and it's relative, #Thalys.

At 3h 15min from #Cologne to #Paris, it's faster than flying considering the #SecurityTheater and the need to catch connecting trains of we compare Statio-to-Station.

In fact, even if I were able to race at 250+ km/h up until the french border if not straight to Paris, it would not be possible to even keep up.

@DrewNaylor
Also did I mention that first class tickets are regularly offered below €100?

I'd have to spend more than that alone on fuel one-way to make it, and that doesn't even account for parking costs (i.e. €40 for a weekend in Cologne, Paris is presumably MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE!), The french Motorway Vignette and OFC having all the hassle and hard labour that is driving such a long distance.

So OFC noone does it but instead takes #PublicTransport.

@DrewNaylor same with #Amsterdam:
Fast and slow trains as well as buses make it far more convenient than a car...

Were the #49EuroTicket not #SubscriptionOnly.and.thus not obtainable for non-residents with good credit ratings but just buyable like the #9EuroTicket then a lot of people would ditch their cars because they'd save much more and didn't have the inconveniences of a car with them, benefiting everyone incl. those that can't!
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The Best Country in the World for Drivers

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