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I’m really interested — will you be swearing allegiance to the King? There is no judgement here, but would love your vote in my poll and maybe reply with why or why not?

#Coronation #KingCharles #KingCharlesIII

Please share around.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65435426

I will
1.3%
I won’t
98.7%
Poll ended at .
Coronation: Public invited to swear allegiance to King Charles

The pledge is among several changes to the service, which will incorporate female clergy and other faiths.

BBC News
Apr 30, 2023 at 9:09amWeb
Show threadTDonovalApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore if it was B.B. King, yes. Otherwise, no.
Show threadStories and FolkloreApr 30, 2023
@xl8freelancer I’m with you there.
Show threadOf Bookish ThingsApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore @xl8freelancer As a Canadian born in 1954, the last Royal of any true consequence has passed away.
Like many Canadians, I would gladly Swear an Oath At Charles and the Floozy.
Show threadStoneface VimesApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore not a hope. I swore no allegiance to the last one. Other constitutional monarchies don't. King is a job description.
Show threadStories and FolkloreApr 30, 2023
@capnthommo I won’t be partaking either.
Show threadStoneface VimesApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore not to say I'm sharpening my pitchfork, but I think if we are to have a monarchy it needs to be on the Scandinavian pattern. A matter of function, not of some kind of 'appointed by god, full of pageantry' affair.
Show thread Why Not Zoidberg? 🦑Apr 30, 2023

@wihtlore As a member of another constitutional Monarchy...

WTF are you guys doing?

Britain TRULY is stuck in the late Vicky era, isn't it? Like spiritually it's still 1888 or something?

I find the idea that I would "Swear allegiance" to the figurehead head of state that cosplay "someone important" on TV sometimes LAUGHABLE.

Show threadTim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPEApr 30, 2023
@WhyNotZoidberg @wihtlore Other countries have equally bonkers rituals, like swearing allegiance to a flag.
Show thread Why Not Zoidberg? 🦑Apr 30, 2023
@TimWardCam @wihtlore Oh of course, but at least the Americans swear to the COUNTRY, not a King.
Show threadEssjay (she / her) 🏳️‍🌈Apr 30, 2023

@wihtlore

Hell no.
De-fund and abolish the monarchy.
All of them.

Show threadI stand against genocideApr 30, 2023
@essjay @wihtlore #notmyking
Show threadLisa DiFalcoApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore Of course, I’ll always respect someone who’s elected into office in a free and fair democratic process… oh wait…
Show thread🦇 Jennie Rigg 🏳️‍🌈 (she/her)Apr 30, 2023

@wihtlore I've been giving flippant answers to this but honestly, as a Liberal, I believe in the abolition of the monarchy because nobody should be born into a cage. And yes, it's a very very gilded cage, but it's still a cage.

Your life should not be determined by the circumstances of your birth applies just as much to royals as it does to the poor IMHO.

Show threadHeddersMay 1, 2023
@miss_s_b you're so, so right about this.
Show threaddazfuller Apr 30, 2023
@wihtlore I won’t be swearing allegiance because the role represents just how stuck in the past this country is. The monarchy should have ended with the death of the queen and the country allowed to move forward. But no, we’re stuck in a system where we’re always one shit policy away from sending children back down the mines
Show threadFladdleApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore He’s not my king, even if he is technically.
Show threadIn Search of a Better WorldApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore I might just swear...🤬
Show threadGillinger has movedApr 30, 2023

@wihtlore The option "I won't " should have read "Are you f#cking joking?"

#AbolishTheMonarchy

Show threadCaledonia 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿Apr 30, 2023
@Gillinger @wihtlore Or ‘not a fukn chance’
Show threadPaul H 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺Apr 30, 2023

@wihtlore

I'm not an out-and-out republican (at least, of the US style with an executive HoS who is effectively an absolute monarch) , but the Head of State should be swearing allegiance to the citizens. I do note he will swear to uphold the laws and customs, but then he should stick to that and not just rubber stamp everything that comes his way.

Show threadPaul H 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺Apr 30, 2023

@wihtlore

Just to clarify, I'm not really a royalist either. I'd like to see a more Scandi-style system - the HoS should be apolitical and ceremonial as the representative of the country as a whole. This is why I'd be against an executive president (though I'd be content with non-executive like Ireland or Germany)

Show threadEveryday CyborgApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore Not a fucking prayer. Royalty is an insult against basic human dignity and equality and as an institution it must be destroyed before we can call ourselves any kind of free country
Show threadflere-imsaho 🇺🇦Apr 30, 2023
@wihtlore first, i'm not british, second, monarchy is an abomination that should not exist.
Show threadDoubleTreble 🥰🇵🇸🌍🇺🇦😺💚🧶🫖Apr 30, 2023
@wihtlore
Divine right of f**king Kings, accident of birth
No inheritance tax!
Put your hand in your own pocket chuck not ours!!
I refer you to my earlier post
Show threadChris McCabeApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore We'll be avoiding the ceremony, but would sub a loud raspberry for the pledge bit.
Show threadbassplayerApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore Surprised you missed an opportunity to have a poll entry say "Bend the knee"
Show threadJeffrey J. DeanApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore @antinomy Even if I were inclined to declare my allegiance, the fact that we are not allowed to affirm instead of to swear is offensive. Quakers have never sworn oaths and have had the legal right to affirm for centuries. I refuse to swear anything to or for anyone.
Show threadKate WatsonApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore @JeffreyJDean This is a very valid and important point, yes.
Show threadMelanie76NicoleApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore I’d swear allegiance to a Prince but sadly he died, Purple Rain. I have no king. Canadian here.
Show thread⁂ Fish Id WardrobeApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore It's a meaningless gesture. Allegiance means I serve him and get something in return; protection, usually. Neither applies here. If (*if*) Charles wants this, he's a raving narcissist.
Show threadHeddersApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore Not a chance. I've nothing against the old boy, and I don't regard the monarchy as being anywhere near the top of the list of our problems as a country, but I don't do forelock tugging.
Show threadDavid BainbridgeApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore Not a cat in hell's chance!
Show threadStoneface VimesApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore wonder what figures are over at tabloid world. Not that I'm going to look - that'd be going above and beyond.
Show threadChris BohnApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore No. We had a whole war about that, and the "nays" won.
Show threadHishamApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore Had the itch to vote "no" because I'm not British (duh!), but I didn't want to skew your poll results!
Show threadStories and FolkloreMay 1, 2023
@hisham_hm the numbers are pretty emphatic anyway :)
Show threadEsther Payne Apr 30, 2023

@wihtlore I find the very idea of him being a defender of his people to be laughable. Well unless you consider the extremely rich privileged people who went to public school, MPs and fellow billionaires to be his people.

I certainly don't give my allegiance to a man at the top of a system that allows austerity. Or to a man that want us to pay for his fancy hat ceremony during a cost of living crisis and children starving.

I also want Independence for Scotland.

#NotMyKing

Show threadEsther Payne Apr 30, 2023

@wihtlore I'm sure they thought of it as a "let's bring everyone together, like the jubilee", thing.

Like the quiche, like the volunteering scheme, it's rather tone deaf when so many people are at the raggedy edge.

The insulation between him and his subjects must be very thick.

Show threadEsther Payne Apr 30, 2023

@wihtlore
There's also a huge part of me that objects to the very idea of using special titles to speak to him.

I'll call people by their titles like Doctors, or even minister. But the idea of Royal protocol just Angers me.

It enforces the idea of classism and is designed to renforce the idea of the status quo. Him being king will change nothing.

Show threadStories and FolkloreMay 1, 2023
@onepict I hate the whole concept of the monarchy
Show threadEsther Payne May 1, 2023

@wihtlore the funny thing is there's a sizable amount of the population that are from the same "ancient lineage" that they go on about. Just the mum wasn't posh enough to merit being an illustrious Fitz.

Which I also think is what alot of our snobbery in Britain is about. That distant link to percieved greatness. Which is utter bollocks.

Show threadjo_the_hatApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore
Britain needs no king ;)
Show threadStories and FolkloreMay 1, 2023
@jo_the_hat agreed.
Show threadCompa_cosmosApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore the royalty days are long gone. Putting these royal families on a pedestal and maintaining their lifestyle for them should be done away with. Many of these families committed atrocities during colonialism and if we are so proud of capitalism…why keep the monarchy alive unless there truly is no capitalism? Is it because there is no true capitalism and we still live in a modern day feudalistic society?
Show threadbillheywoodApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore
I don't really understand the question, no one is going to ask me to swear allegiance to the King
Show threadStories and FolkloreMay 1, 2023
@billheywood it’s a general I think. I pretty sure no one is going to come and ask every person to it.
Show threadbillheywoodMay 1, 2023
@wihtlore
Actually, if Camilla popped round and asked me really nicely over tea and scones, I would probably do it just to be polite 🫖🍰😆
Show threadOsciiApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore Of course not. It's silly. He's just a bloke born into a weirdly ceremonial family. He's not special.
Show threadhikewithrichardApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore This poll feels one sided. :-P.
Show threadStories and FolkloreMay 1, 2023
@harmonicarichard has turned out that way, yes.
Show threadBetsy BeeApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore No but I will be swearing if that helps.
Show threadChris J. KarrApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore I'm one of those filthy American colonials.
Show threadSir David NielsenApr 30, 2023

@wihtlore @donmelton I have said it before, but the French had the right approach to royalty.

Over entitled twits the lot of them, so they can pack it in, hand over their wealth and count themselves lucky that they get to keep their heads.

Show threadRaghnallDApr 30, 2023

@wihtlore

It's time the English dragged themselves into the 20th century

#NotMyKing #AbolishTheMonarchy #RepublicNow #republic #youyesyet #YesScots #ScottishIndependence #endlondonrule #indyref2 #WhyNotScotland

Show threadAdo ✅May 7, 2023
@raghnallborders @wihtlore wow, Switzerland was so ahead of the times.
Show threadRaghnallDMay 7, 2023
@sirbega @wihtlore it was stil 990 years behind san marino!
Show threadAdo ✅May 8, 2023
@raghnallborders @wihtlore yah, I'm surprised that it even existed back then.
Show threadRaghnallDMay 8, 2023
@sirbega @wihtlore It's one of the world's oldest republics. Good on them.
Show threadSarah CollinsApr 30, 2023
@wihtlore he’s not my king!