micballinApr 26, 2023
Claudius Link

Question to the #Mastodon community

After my negative experience with #DropBox
https://infosec.exchange/@realn2s/110200718918101674

Any recommendations for a (self-hosted) alternative? For a self hoste version I would really like the option to (securely) mirror it offsite (e.g team up with others and safe the data of each other. Ideally with E2E encryption)

@nextcloud looks most promising. But I don't know how the mirroring could be accomplished. The status and functionality of Open Cloud Mesh could be interesting.

#Boost is welcome

Claudius Link (@[email protected])

Everything is fine now. Backup was restored successfully (AFAI can Know). Contrary to all rumours, it took somewhere between 3 and 4 hours. Nevertheless, it didn't feel too good that i had to depend on my backup 😬 Takeaways #Dropbox wasn't restored successfully. And Dropbox files are NOT on disk when Dropbox isn't working 😖. I bet the files will be somewhere but I consider this (intentional) bad UX. IMHO this is a kind of user-lock-in. If you uninstall Dropbox your files are gone 🤬

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Show threadEsk 🐌⚡💜Apr 26, 2023
@realn2s if you're ok with a bit more old school-ness, maybe a set of synology nas? dropbox like app for sync (including on mobile) and offsite.
Show threadAnders Puck NielsenApr 26, 2023
@realn2s @nextcloud How about Synology?
Show threadChristoffer S.Apr 26, 2023

@realn2s
I too vote for Synology combined with the awesome @tailscale app.

Tailscale will give you a private Wireguard peer-to-peer network and it works beautifully. Reasonably static addresses, and I chose to register them with my dns provider making it pretty easy to address and reach.
@nextcloud

Show threadIndigoApr 26, 2023

@cstromblad @realn2s @tailscale @nextcloud

Joining in on this recommendation!

Show threadmovedApr 26, 2023
@realn2s Backblaze was highly reliable the last time I used it. I've seen rclone + a B2 bucket suggested for more complex needs.
Show threadElias MårtensonApr 26, 2023

@realn2s @nextcloud you can build that on top of nextcloud if you want. The latest versions of all documents are always available in a directory on the server (with metadata and other versions of the same documents being stored in other places). As such, you can always sync this directory with an external system to keep a backup of the latest version of every document.

Do note that you cannot change the files in this directory or the metadata will be inconsistent, so the sync can only be one way.

Show threadBlake Ashley Jr.Apr 26, 2023

@realn2s @nextcloud Nextcloud E2EE is not ready for primetime, so bring your own crypto.

My preferred solution is Borg + Synching. Keep backup and sync in separate domains.

Show threadKenApr 26, 2023
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Show threadFritz AdalisApr 26, 2023

@realn2s
@nextcloud
The Nextcloud VM uses zfs for its data partition, which can be replicated to other hosts.

#mastodon #dropbox #boost

Show threadbeyondwattsApr 26, 2023

@realn2s @nextcloud using OwnCloud here synced across two Synology NAS boxes with RAID drive arrays

The docker image is easy to set up if you want to trial although I’ve moved the database to a separate host

External access over VPN

#owncloud #docker #nas

Show threadMichael Potts (HMHackMaster)Apr 26, 2023

@realn2s I run a pretty robust @nextcloud setup on my personal infrastructure. The server mounts the data volume via NFS from my SAN, which is then rsync'd and snapshot for backups and fault tolerance.

Depending on your size, you can run it pretty easily on anything and since the server storage is just the files, back them up however you want!

I agree with the other comments though, Nextcloud's E2E isn't something I trust (and it would ruin the deduplication and restorability)