MouseATApr 14, 2023
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The thing about Twitter is that it really lacks a lot of the features you'd expect from a true Mastodon replacement.

For example, there's no way to edit your toots (which they, confusingly call "tweets"—let's face it, it's a bit of a silly name that's difficult to take seriously).

"Tweets" can't be covered by a content warning. There's no way to let the poster know you like their tweet without also sharing it, and no bookmark feature.

There's no way to set up your own instance, and you're basically stuck on a single instance of Twitter. That means there's no community moderators you can reach out to to quickly resolve issues. Also, you can't de-federate instances with a lot of problematic content.

It also doesn't Integrate with other fediverse platforms, and I couldn't find the option to turn the ads off.

Really, Twitter has made a good start, but it will need to add a lot of additional features before it gets to the point where it becomes a true Mastodon replacement for most users.

#twitter #mastodon #twittermigration @fediverse

Nov 13, 2022 at 5:15amWeb
Show threadNerdahedronNov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.
Show threadJejoNov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas haha I saw what you did there
Show threadDavid FarnellNov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas @TeacherGriff love it! I keep seeing tweet after tweet of ppl who took one look at one Mastodon instance with rules they didn’t like & noped away from all of Mastodon, and the replies are all “Wow, never going there!” And for a couple days I tried to correct the misperceptions…then realized, “Ah well, they’ll find some social app they like, eventually.”
Show threadwhonose123Nov 13, 2022
@azzageddi @ajsadauskas @TeacherGriff truth social maybe?? :(
Show threadLocksmithApr 16, 2023
@whonose123 @azzageddi @ajsadauskas @TeacherGriff Twitter is Truth Social but with Elmo.
Show threadPer FunkeNov 13, 2022
@azzageddi @ajsadauskas @TeacherGriff
Bah! I'm so selfish I want the ALL on this platform!
Show threadIdiotBirdNov 13, 2022

@azzageddi @ajsadauskas @TeacherGriff

Totally support disengaging with problematic birdsite people, but my concern with a lot of the sorts of posts you mention is not the person making them (Mastodon is ill-suited to them and they should stay away) but that they often couch their decisions in general terms like "Mastodon is difficult and confusing" or "Having many different servers is hopeless" or "lots of error messages and glitchy" which are likely to dissuade others from even looking at Mastodon instances.

Show threadAutisticTeacherGriffNov 13, 2022

@IdiotBird @azzageddi @ajsadauskas

And for me, that's a cue for those of us who are knowledgable to step in and say:

What's confusing you?

What's giving you trouble with the fact there are many servers?

Right now there's tons of people adding, and this isn't a corporate site supported by advertising, so that's bound to happen sometimes.

And if they continue to not look at Mastodon, well, that's their loss more than ours, in my opinion.

Show threadredmarkNov 14, 2022
@IdiotBird @azzageddi @ajsadauskas @TeacherGriff
Having watched a couple of people in particular at the other place, railing against mastodon's 'failings', it seems to be deliberate in some cases. If their following (and maybe income) is based on a degree of constant outrage and conflict, a calmer and more thoughtful platform is never going to win them over. They seem threatened by the possibility of it winning their followers over.
Show threadIdiotBirdNov 14, 2022

@redmark @azzageddi @ajsadauskas @TeacherGriff

Yeah, I've seen some people straight up say that Mastodoon won't support their income model, which I have a lot more respect for than vague complaints. Also I think there's a lot of displaced anger which I get at some level but doesn't excuse falsehoods.

Show threadLaura KosloffNov 13, 2022

@azzageddi @ajsadauskas @TeacherGriff

David, I found myself doing the same thing, explaining this point or correcting that point. Not sure it's done much good. If they don't like it, that's OK.

Show threadIta RyanApr 14, 2023
@azzageddi @ajsadauskas @TeacherGriff
I just say, instead of 'server', think 'tribe'. Choose the tribe you most want to hang out with, and remember you can still connect with everyone else.
Show threadTim ChambersNov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas Nice 🙂
Show threadprotectyouritNov 13, 2022
@tchambers @ajsadauskas Well said!
Show threadAnsel Robateau 🇧🇿 👨🏾‍💻Nov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas I see what you did there
Show threadForest Changeling (they/them)Nov 13, 2022

@ajsadauskas
Re bookmark feature: Twitter has bookmarks but it's so unintuitive in placement that most people never find it. (I consider this worse than not having it at all.)

Not intending to be splainy, just I use them and I constantly see people say the feature doesn't exist. It's so poorly advertised.

(It's under the share menu)

Show threadForest Changeling (they/them)Nov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas
I don't even know what the point is of having the feature when it's this poorly implemented.
Show threadVidar Hokstad / Galaxy BoundNov 13, 2022
@forestfae @ajsadauskas I use them quite heavily, but yeah the placement is very much counter-intuitive.
Show threadIrinaNov 13, 2022
@forestfae @ajsadauskas Also you can't remove just ONE bookmark, so either a bookmark you made by mistake is there forever or you have to delete the whole list.
Show threadCarsten BeckerNov 13, 2022
@irina @forestfae @ajsadauskas You can remove individual bookmarks by clicking the share symbol and then choosing "remove tweet from bookmarks", but that's not very intuitive either.
Show threadIrinaNov 13, 2022
@chrpistorius @forestfae @ajsadauskas Good to know in case I ever to back to actually use twitter again (rather than reading and very occasionally replying, what I'm doing now)
Show threadTim JNov 13, 2022

@forestfae @ajsadauskas I actually use them! But then forget they're there and have to go searching again. But give me time—I've only been on there 14 years, and that's nowhere near long enough to understand why the design is as it is.

It's also horrifying how few people there know there's a chronological view, so they're not even able to see the tweets they want to.

Show threadSam WatkinsNov 14, 2022
@forestfae @ajsadauskas I feel that we should use browser bookmarks not app-specific bookmarks; however I don't know a browser that has a good bookmarks system, like delicious used to be. My Chrome bookmarks are a terrible mess because Chrome uses a hierarchy rather than tags.
Show threadForest Changeling (they/them)Nov 14, 2022
@sswam @ajsadauskas I wish that you had a good option for that for yourself, but that would actually be much MUCH worse for me.
Show threadfeline shady, déclasséeNov 14, 2022
@forestfae @ajsadauskas
yes, i use/used bookmarks all the time on birdsite but when i got onto mastodon web interface, was just so pleased to see the button sitting there under each toot 😍
Show threadBen CaudronNov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas I love the smell of irony in the morning. Nice toot. Tnx
Show threadmoby dickgirlNov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas this is funny to me partly because (I'm assuming you don't already know this, so sorry in advance if you do) Twitter has been working on building its own non-ActivityPub federation protocol ever since it became aware that Mastodon exists. The original plan was for Twitter.com to simply become an instance on that network. God knows what's going to happen now
Show threadRyan Egesdahl Nov 13, 2022
@estrapade @ajsadauskas I assume you’re referring to Bluesky? While it was organized by Twitter, it’s actually a non-profit initiative that Twitter has no controlling stake in. Whatever happens to Twitter, Bluesky is its own thing. I imagine research is still going forward, but still… it’s kinda reinventing the wheel at this point.
Show threadwhonose123Nov 13, 2022
@deriamis @estrapade @ajsadauskas bluesky should consider Federating, with the REAL fediverse..
Show threadSam WatkinsNov 14, 2022
@estrapade @ajsadauskas Maybe Musk should throw away the Twitter code base, and import their current database into (a set of) Mastodon instances. It could certainly save the company money if they didn't have to host it all.
Show threadRaineer  🦆Nov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas thank you so much for framing this the other way. This is beautiful.
Show threadmav Nov 13, 2022

@ajsadauskas

@hacks4pancakes

Show threadarchastroNov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas perfect.
Show threadKai Klostermann Nov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas To be fair, there is a bookmark feature.
Show threadAllan ChowNov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas he was looking for Pooh!
Show thread42runs Nov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas yeah and the business model is not so sustainable either. One bezerk hyper capitalist at the top, and no protective rights for employees. That can’t last forever right? i’ve heard some are switching to mastodon
Show threadBias 🔞Nov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas haha, nice. :D
Show threadErich SchulzNov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas this made me laugh
Show threaddekks herton  Nov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas sadly the too many of the twitter refugees just ignore the CW
Show threadNick 🇬🇧🇺🇦Nov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas Loved that. Thank you.
Show threadbrihadeeshNov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas I can't tell if this is satire or said in all seriousness but it's, without doubt, the best thing I've read in a while!
Show threadColonel IrrelevantNov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas fair to say that Mastodon is a much, much better experience.
Show threadAndy Gibson 💭Nov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas brilliant! 👏🏼👏🏼
Show threadOblomovNov 13, 2022

@ajsadauskas

I love this, but Twitter does have a bookmark feature ;-)

Show threadPJ "Vote Green" CoffeyNov 13, 2022
@oblomov @ajsadauskas is that so? They should get that on Mastodon. 😉
Show threadJan Garten. Barmbek (oder so).Nov 13, 2022

@ajsadauskas

Show threadPonderStibbonsNov 13, 2022

@ajsadauskas

https://twitter.com/Ponder_Stybbons/status/1591694905537175553?t=j4L25uCtgTgvguPdShaOfQ&s=19

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“With credit to AJ Sadauskas: "The thing about Twitter is that it really lacks a lot of the features you'd expect from a true Mastodon replacement. " #Mastodon #Twitter #TwitterMigration”

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Show threadMetrognomeNov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas
Just a short point: birdsite does have bookmarks but they are a mess to organise.
Show threadSibrosanNov 13, 2022

@ajsadauskas

Not to mention that you get to read such brilliant posts as yours, without having to weed through countless asininities and malicious insults. 🙂

Show threadBarrySullivanXNov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas love Thanks.
Show threadMike CohenNov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas you can edit toots?
Show threadPJ "Vote Green" CoffeyNov 13, 2022

@mikec415 @ajsadauskas delete and redraft.

Doing that will lose any replies including your own.

Show threadMike CohenNov 13, 2022
@Homebrewandhacking @ajsadauskas oh, like Twitterrific
Show threadPJ "Vote Green" CoffeyNov 13, 2022
@mikec415 @ajsadauskas no, because it preserves your text and you don't have to retype it.
Show threadNaogurNov 13, 2022
@mikec415 on some instances you can
Show threadFlorian HaasNov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas Brilliant summary. Chapeau.
Show threadValentin AbgottsponNov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas True that.
Show threadwhonose123Nov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas Well played!
Show threadJessica Nov 13, 2022
@ajsadauskas 🤣