Mastodawn

';DROP TABLE foxes;--Feb 1, 2023

@elizayer Ahh, finally a map projection that doesn't preserve area, shape, direction, bearing or distance!

Dave Neary Feb 1, 2023

@DropTableFoxes @elizayer Ah! I read the article, and he does include exclaves, but does not count them with the parent country. The chart does include all the borders I mentioned plus a France-Surinam border, a Netherlands-France border in the Caribbean, a UK/Cyprus border I didn't know about, Croatia borders with Montenegro and Bosnia, and a Russian border with Poland (among others).

essjax Feb 2, 2023

@DropTableFoxes @elizayer gosh I love this. Amazing, fabulous work.

Ursidinoj/The Bjornsdottirs Feb 1, 2023

@elizayer

Errors, from the article

•Bolivia/Paraguay/Argentina/Brazil border needs flipping

South Sudan/Kenya/Ethiopia/Uganda border needs flipping

Missing Bahrain

“Nicuragua” and “Dominican Repbulic”

Spatialmdl Feb 1, 2023

@elizayer
Interesting how it highlights the topological connections of key countries between regions and continents . .the Caucasians, Turkey, Egypt, Iran, Afghanistan etc

Christian Lawson-Perfect Feb 1, 2023

FAO @standupmaths

yetzt Feb 1, 2023

@elizayer nice, but the denmark-canada border is missing.

Dolf van der Haven 🐘🐓Feb 1, 2023

@yetzt @elizayer
There is no such border as it is water only. Unless that counts, because apparently DK also borders with SE according to this graph, which is also only sea.

yetzt Feb 1, 2023

@dvdhaven canada and denmark have a land border on hans island as of last year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Island

but i see the graph is from 2020.

Hans Island - Wikipedia

Michael Porter Feb 1, 2023

@yetzt @dvdhaven Yes, after so many years of simmering tensions we finally made peace without firing a shot (unless you count schnapps and whisky 😄).

Rune Skovbo Johansen Feb 2, 2023

@dvdhaven @yetzt @elizayer The border between Denmark and Sweden is shown as blue, similar to the one between UK and France. It could mean they're connected via bridge or tunnel (which they are, also in 2020), which would have to have a non-sea border somewhere along it.

René ☀️ Hoffmann

Feb 2, 2023

@dvdhaven @yetzt @elizayer The DK-SE border is maybe shown as a land connection because of the Öresund Bridge.

Gregor Schmidt Feb 1, 2023

@yetzt @elizayer So is the French Brazilian one. 🤓

yetzt Feb 1, 2023

@schm at least the french-dutch border is present.

Gregor Schmidt Feb 1, 2023

@yetzt am I missing something? I don't see it in the "map".

@schm @yetzt I think the French-Brazilian border is represented as one of the "exclaves" - the one-letter F bordering Brazil represents France (but yes, detaching exclaves does decrease the full force of the exercise!)

Gregor Schmidt Feb 1, 2023

@elizayer @yetzt Oh. You're right my bad. I was hoping for a big connection from Europe to the Americas and didn't see any. I didn't notice the exclaves.

Now I also see the Dutch-French border on St. Martin.

Thanks for the explanation.

Ulf J. Froitzheim Feb 3, 2023

@elizayer @schm @yetzt Sant Maarten, you mean?

Michael Porter Feb 1, 2023

@yetzt @elizayer Here you go!

Dolf van der Haven 🐘🐓Feb 1, 2023

@elizayer France also borders with Brazil (via its colony French Guyana) and with The Netherlands (on St. Martin/Maarten).

Sam Gross Feb 2, 2023

@dvdhaven the little semicircle between Suriname and Brazil is marked F for that reason. But I don’t love the way exclaves are handled, a lot of priority is given to how coastline is handled.

trenchworms Feb 1, 2023

@elizayer @alienelf this feels like your jam

Peepis✅Feb 1, 2023

@elizayer I feel like this would make for a funny strategy game

Walter van Holst Feb 1, 2023

@elizayer It's missing the Dutch-Franco border. As well as the French-Canadian and the Danish-Canadian borders.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil%E2%80%93France_border

embix Feb 1, 2023

@whvholst @elizayer as well as the border between France and Brazil. "It is the longest border France shares with another country"

Brazil–France border - Wikipedia

@brezelradar @whvholst Woah! I never knew that, that's amazing!

@brezelradar @whvholst I've just realised that he's done "exclaves" as single-letters detached from their full country. France-Brazil is there, with a tiny F by Brazil. A subtle political statement or just something to make the map work out? (the latter, I''m guessing!)

Walter van Holst Feb 1, 2023

@elizayer @brezelradar That would make Aruba an exclave (its territorial waters are adjacent to Venezuela's), not buying the argument. Probably the latter indeed.

embix Feb 1, 2023

@elizayer @whvholst I've seen an updated version of that map some time ago on r/MapPorn, but could not find it fast enough.

This post may have started it: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/gxwn5r/comment/ft5wfc6/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

There were at least some attempts to correct certain aspects of it in the same subreddit, but I don't remember seeing a "final" version that reached consensus so far. The "fixed" version certainly wasn't https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/gy2lll/comment/fta4o8s/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[OC] The topologist's map of the world - a map showing international borders, and nothing else

Posted in r/MapPorn by u/xilefakamot • 60,484 points and 1,678 comments

@brezelradar @whvholst Thank you so much for the additional context!

Alex Maryson Feb 1, 2023

@elizayer Finally they added exclaves. I love this map

Ted Han ★ 韓聖安 Feb 1, 2023

@elizayer @threedaymonk ah excellent, an illustration of the https://globle-game.com/ solution space

Globle

Use your geography knowledge to figure out the mystery country in as few guesses as possible!

Globle

Oliver Lorton Feb 1, 2023

@elizayer I would love one of these, but instead of border, free-trade agreements.

@olorton Genius!

Dave Neary Feb 1, 2023

@elizayer Nice! They are missing a few land borders though: France-Brazil, UK-Spain, Spain-Morocco are the three I noticed immediately - there might be some others missing.

rnlf 🍉

Feb 4, 2023

@dneary @elizayer France-Brazil and Spain-Marocco are there?

Dave Neary Feb 4, 2023

@rnlf @elizayer Yes - I noticed the exclaves are listed, but as little blobs in the right geographic region.

Peter Bindels Feb 1, 2023

@elizayer Can you put Iceland back into Europe?

Elizabeth Ayer Feb 2, 2023

@dascandy42 No more than I can bring the UK back to Europe! Sorry, I'm not the one who made this map, but you can post a comment on the page maybe?

star Feb 2, 2023

@elizayer interesting, one thing that stands out to me that I wouldn't have noticed on most maps is that there are no island countries on any enclosed body of water. if the strait of Gibraltar closed and we scrapped the Suez canal, we could have it with Cyprus

Elizabeth Ayer Feb 2, 2023

@star wow, that's an amazing observation!

kira :3 Feb 2, 2023

@elizayer i like how they did panama

smells of bikes Feb 2, 2023

@elizayer This may be of interest to @pokateo

pokateo maps 🥔🗺️Feb 6, 2023

@smellsofbikes @elizayer WHOAAAA that's for sharing

Jamie Montgomerie Feb 2, 2023

How did I have no idea until now that there was a (fairly large!) enclave of Russia on the Baltic Sea _completely surrounded_ by EU nations (Poland and Lithuania)!?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad_Oblast

Kaliningrad Oblast - Wikipedia

@th_in_gs Whoa, I had no idea either! I’ve been listening to a long podcast about Russian history that really emphasized the old empire’s historical quest for viable, ice-free seaports, so makes sense they’d try to hold that.

That whole Baltic region has such a fascinatingly complicated history of shifting ownership and influence.

Scott Perry Feb 2, 2023

@buzz @th_in_gs What podcast?

@numist @th_in_gs The season of Mike Duncan’s Revolutions about the Russian Revolution https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/revolutions/id703889772

He starts with a pretty deep dive into a thousand years of Russian history. And when he gets into WWI and later the Russian Civil War, Poland and the Balkans start to become important.

Revolutions

History Podcast · Weekly Series · Season 12 premiered October 20, 2024 – a nonfictional account of The Martian Revolution of 2247. Mike Duncan is taking everything he's learned from 12 seasons of historical revolutions - the repeatin…

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Scott Perry Feb 2, 2023

@buzz @th_in_gs I just finished Bloodlands and oh man that area had an extra rough go of things from 1933 to 1945

@numist @th_in_gs Oooh, that’s been on my list forever!

Scott Perry Feb 2, 2023

@buzz I started it on the recommendation of Dmitri Alperovitch back on Twitter when this conflict started. It's a tough read for anyone with a shred of humanity in them, I should write a review.

@numist Yeah, one real takeaway of all for me has been how much Ukraine has always been a sort of geopolitical crossroads. Really puts today's conflict in context.