New HomePod!

Looks the same, but it's got a temperature and humidity sensor, Matter support, new ambient sound features, and new confirmation tones for some Siri requests.

Also: perfect tagline from Apple 😂

And here's our story on the new HomePod and where it differs from the original one: https://www.macstories.net/news/apple-announces-second-generation-homepod/
Apple Announces Second-Generation HomePod

Over the weekend, Mark Gurman said that Apple would be releasing a new HomePod soon. As it turns out, he was correct because today, Apple released a new second-generation HomePod. According to Apple’s press release, With convenient new ways to manage everyday tasks and control the smart home, users can now create smart home automations

We've used the Internet Archive to compare the specs of the original HomePod VS. the new 2nd gen one, and there are some interesting differences.

I wonder if the new HomePod is going to sound worse than the original one. 🤔

https://www.macstories.net/news/apple-announces-second-generation-homepod/

Apple Announces Second-Generation HomePod

Over the weekend, Mark Gurman said that Apple would be releasing a new HomePod soon. As it turns out, he was correct because today, Apple released a new second-generation HomePod. According to Apple’s press release, With convenient new ways to manage everyday tasks and control the smart home, users can now create smart home automations

@viticci (I think you have the old and new weights swapped)
@viticci for the same price as the old one I really hope not 😅
@viticci Psst. Not that I want to give away my secrets, but we’re all friends here, so here’s a tip: Apple’s site still has the specs for gen 1. No need to go to the wayback machine for that (or any other Apple specs of recent years). (Cc @johnvoorhees) https://support.apple.com/kb/sp773?locale=en_US
HomePod - Technical Specifications

@viticci Maybe they are changing it to be "less bass-heavy" out of the box? The original HomePod was near unplayable over 50% sound if you live in an apartment - you'll hear from neighbors 😂
@viticci I wouldn’t be worried about the quantity of speakers as much as I’d be worried the OG HomePod’s amazing BMR tweeters seem to be more standard looking cones now.
@snazzyq @viticci I'm always wary of anything over $100 without an input. Gives speakers a much longer life cycle like my SONOS 5s or even UE Booms. USB-C would have been great for power and some functionality.
@SloanStudio @snazzyq @viticci Totally agree. I have the original homepod. Its many shortcomings have been often discussed and the fact that Appple decided not to address **any** of them is kind of nuts. not having any inputs is one such shortcoming IMO.
@viticci I was about to order it (loved the first one) but this article convinced me to wait for reviews.
@viticci did the original have wireless ac as well?

@viticci maybe you can follow up with Apple about the 802.11n? That’s from 2008 (now rebranded as Wi-Fi 4), and the first gen had ac (Wi-Fi 5).

So if true it’s actually a downgrade, although maybe not a meaningful one from a practical sense.

@viticci I think the weights should be switched.
@viticci the touch area is recessed like on the HomePod mini. On the OG HomePod, it’s flush with the top of the mesh fabric.

@viticci I'm not sure why beam forming isn't mentioned in the tech specs as it is mentioned on the Overview page.

Any idea why Wi-Fi has been downgraded from 5 to 4?

@tgt @viticci probably because it's using a Watch chip and the Watch doesn't use Wifi 5. 802.11n is seriously old tech, though. I think the first Apple device to pioneer it was in 2006 and I remember my "draft-n" compatible router in 2005.
@viticci I’ve expected a replacement would sound worse, but I also expected the replacement would be maybe $200. This seems like the worst of both worlds.
@viticci It has an accelerometer?! 🤔
@viticci 802.11n seems to be a downgrade. The 1st gen had 802.11ac with MIMO.
@viticci Isn’t it a little weird that the new HomePod only supports 802.11n? I feel like the rest of their devices have supported wifi 6 for quite some time now.
@viticci I bet it sounds $49 worse. 😎

@viticci “The new HomePod is also getting a WiFi upgrade with 802.11n support.”

Was the use of the word “upgrade” a sarcasm?

@viticci it’s not that clear in the artifice. Is an S7 chip and the new sensors the only difference?
@josh @viticci I guess there might also be sound differences but we’ll need to wait for the first reviews
@josh @viticci AFAIK it also has fewer speakers and fewer microphones.
@viticci Will it still mess up your furniture, though?
@nickheer this is the most important question (not kidding Silvia would kill me if I ruin the new furniture with this)
@viticci what’s really interesting that it appears that the HomePod mini has had a temperature and humidity sensor all along.
@viticci do we know if it can form a stereo pair with a first-gen HomePod?
@viticci never mind, it can’t! 😭
@Aaronvegh doesn't seem like you can unfortunately
@viticci "get notified when a smoke or carbon monoxide alarm is detected in their home" That _seems_ silly but it's actually great for deaf folks. if i was deaf i'd only know mine was going off because of the dogs loosing their minds.
@viticci Is AirPlay still the only way to connect to it? Will it still disconnect every few days from the Apple TV that it’s supposedly paired with?
@viticci Could it be a smart thermostat with right software?
@viticci I’m glad it’s back. Wish they could’ve gotten to $200 or at least $250. Wondering if 5 tweeters vs original 7 will make a practical difference. I’d still love to see the HomePod line expanded. I went with Sonos arc + sub + 2 Sonos one for new home theater setup.
@viticci Apple low key retconned the original Homepod with this naming.
@viticci Have then confirmed whether the new ambient sound features are tied to the new HomePods? It says that it’s arriving via a future software update.
@viticci the mini is also now listed to have temp/humidity sensor, which was initially reported as ‘hidden’.. maybe will be enabled with 16.3?
@Yannis my HomePod Mini’s are on the 16.3 beta and I just tested it out and when asked what’s the temperature in here, Siri responded “It’s currently 76 degrees in the hallway”. Unsure why the hallway was mentioned as I am in my Loft but I had no idea it had temp sensing until I read it on the HomePod page on Apple.com.
@iBanks My minis are on 16.2 and Siri said ‘there are no accessories that support temperature control’.. so sounds they’re enabling it with 16.3?
@Yannis yes, that should be the case.
@viticci I know someone who’s gonna be very excited by this news. @marcoarment 👀
@viticci SO happy with this film. The HomePod launch videos always go hard.
@viticci did the mini got updated too? Cause I see this in the comparison table but it's not listed anywhere in the HomePod mini specs page.

@pkorros @viticci

Apple’s page doesn’t say the HomePod mini is new.

Maybe these sensors were already there and they just haven’t told us. 🤔 This functionality might come in a software update.

@gracjan @viticci that would be great! or it might just be a mistake.
@pkorros @viticci I just updated my HomePod mini to iOS 16.3 RC and the sensors are showing up in the Home app. It says they’re not responding, but somebody on Reddit said it needed around half hour to calibrate for them, so I’ll wait.
@viticci as soon as I saw this I thought about your quip on the HomePod Mini and what was it a Mini version of if Apple no longer sold the HomePod? 😆 While I like that they lowered the price a smidge, and the new sensors are good, kind of meh that they didn’t do any more than that. But at least they’re continuing the line 🤷‍♂️
@viticci is there a new mini with with temperature sensor?
@gh0sti @viticci the old Mini has the sensors, Apple just had them disabled before and will now be turning them on with the next software update
@[email protected] that with 9to5 mac that’s awesome b
@viticci liking the fact that the existing minis have a temp and humidity sensor
@viticci Do I need to buy 15 before it starts working?
@viticci Did they stumble across a warehouse of half-assembled HomePods?
@devinprater @viticci You'll love that. Our new echo gen 5 ahas a room temp sensor and we love it.
@viticci @AppleVis Sadly, with Siri becoming so sluggish and unresponsive over the past couple of months, I would not buy a HomePod for even a dollar, no matter how good it sounded. Unfortunately I can no longer rely on Siri for anything.