randolNov 17, 2022
Brent Toderian
Never forget, a 13-year study of a dozen cities found that protected bike-lanes led to a drastic decline in fatalities for ALL ROAD USERS. And painted bike-lanes? No safety improvement at all. As for sharrows, it’s safer to NOT have them. Via #StreetsblogUSA, read their article linked below. #bikelanes #bikes #cities #transportation #mobility #sharrows #infrastructure #urbanplanning
https://usa.streetsblog.org/2019/05/29/protect-yourself-separated-bike-lanes-means-safer-streets-study-says/
Separated Bike Lanes Means Safer Streets, Study Says

Cities that build protected lanes for cyclists end up with safer roads for people on bikes and people in cars and on foot, a new study of 12 large metropolises revealed Wednesday.

Streetsblog USA
Nov 14, 2022 at 4:56amWeb
Show threadhubickNov 14, 2022
@BrentToderian Even though there's no practical benefit to sharrows, I still like them better than nothing, cuz, at the very least, it's a statement that I, as a cyclist, BELONG there. It's recognition cyclists even EXIST on our roadways, and informs motorists "this is a place where bikes SHOULD be, make room for them!" That gives me COURAGE to take the lane when I want to, and motorists can WAIT, because this is MY space too. If nothing else, I view it as a MENTAL benefit to cyclists.
Show threadGraeme HiltonNov 15, 2022
@hubick @BrentToderian But the evidence says it is safer without them.
Show threadPeteNov 15, 2022

@hubick @BrentToderian
I've concluded that those markings mean nothing to the overwhelming majority of motorists.

The reason I oppose #sharrows is that they are used by cities to claim progress and improvement that doesn't actually improve safety. My city slapped them on a bunch of roads and declared some number of miles of bike infrastructure were built.

But keep on taking the lane, friend, you're fighting the good fight. You using the road visibly does 100x more to change driver behavior!

Show threadhubickNov 15, 2022
@forpeterssake @BrentToderian I believe you're correct, sharrows don't mean anything to motorists, but they mean something to me (slightly more than nothing). I also hope they serve to carve out spaces where better infra can come later. And you're totally right about using them as propaganda about all the infra they've provided, which gives me a great idea - we should all re-draw our city cycling maps without the sharrows to show how pathetic the situation really is!
Show threadJim MayerNov 30, 2022
@hubick @forpeterssake @BrentToderian I like sharrows on seriously traffic calmed streets, but I don't think they should be used anywhere else. I also don't think municipalities should be able to count unbuffered painted bike lanes toward their "XXX km of cycling infrastructure". Pure personal opinion, but my 2¢.
Show threadTom KarloNov 16, 2022
@forpeterssake @hubick @BrentToderian Can we maybe get some car sharrows that let the cars know which lanes they're supposed to use?
Show threadPeteNov 16, 2022

@tkarlo
@hubick @BrentToderian

So like a woonerf? Yes please!

Show threadTom KarloNov 19, 2022
@forpeterssake @hubick @BrentToderian I genuinely have no idea what that is
Show threadDr. Tineke D'HaeseleerNov 19, 2023
@tkarlo @forpeterssake @hubick @BrentToderian fiets straat in Flanders! Cars have to stay behind bikes. A bit nerve-wrecking as a cyclist if you have a long street with a line of duckling cars behind you and you’re not a fast rider, tbh!
Show threadgeobeck 🏳️‍🌈Nov 16, 2022

@hubick @BrentToderian That's exactly the false sense of security mentioned in the article.

A week ago I was nearly hit by an impatient motorist in a shared lane even though I clearly signalled my intentions for a full 2 seconds. Of course, this is Vancouver, where there is essentially ZERO speed enforcement.

Show threadhubickNov 16, 2022
@geobeck @BrentToderian I almost get killed by vehicles 3 times every day I ride my bike, so believe me when I say the sharrow has not lulled me into some false sense of security, and find the statement this is "exactly" that to be insulting. It's not that. It's a label for places where I intend to FULLY exert my right to safely use that roadway. I will take the lane ALL DAY LONG, and motorists can fucking wait. Or lose all their teeth to my u-lock if they endanger me. MY place.
Show threadgeobeck 🏳️‍🌈Nov 17, 2022

@hubick @BrentToderian When a bike is in a collision with a motor vehicle, the car ALWAYS wins. The phrase "dead right" takes on a literal meaning when bikes assert their right of way in the path of a motorist who is unwilling to give up their lane.

If you almost die 3 times a day, that's not a reasonable assertion of your place on the road; that's dangerously misinformed risk management.

I hope it doesn't take a long hospital stay to hone your risk management skills.

Show threadde VK5ZSH 🇦🇺 🐧 🏳️‍🌈Nov 14, 2022
@BrentToderian yeah road paint is slipper as all hell when wet, I come a gutsa a couple times in the wet on road bike
Show threadDerPradaNov 14, 2022
@BrentToderian I also would also expect that for all road users it feels more unstressed.
Show threadSascha Pallenberg 🇹🇼 ♻️ ⚡Nov 14, 2022
@BrentToderian great to see you here!
Show threadTorsten Grieger Nov 14, 2022

Eine 13-jährige Studie in einem Dutzend Städten ergab, dass geschützte #Radwege zu einem drastischen Rückgang tödlicher Unfälle unter ALLEN STRASSENBENUTZERN führen. Bemalte Radwege bedeuten keine Verbesserung der #Sicherheit. Und hinsichtlich der in einigen Ländern verbreiteten Sharrows, anteilig genutzten Fahrstreifen, ist es besser, sie NICHT zu haben. Darauf verweist @BrentToderian ...

#Fahrrad #Infrastruktur #Mobilitaetswende #Radweg #Stadtplanung #Verkehr

🔗 https://usa.streetsblog.org/2019/05/29/protect-yourself-separated-bike-lanes-means-safer-streets-study-says/

Separated Bike Lanes Means Safer Streets, Study Says

Cities that build protected lanes for cyclists end up with safer roads for people on bikes and people in cars and on foot, a new study of 12 large metropolises revealed Wednesday.

Streetsblog USA
Show threadJohannes BaropNov 14, 2022

@torstengrieger @BrentToderian Erst heute habe ich (heute als Autofahrer) einen LKW beobachtet, der bestimmt mit fast 70 Sachen durch die Hamburger Innenstadt gedonnert ist.

Zentimeter an einem Radfahrer vorbei. Aber es war ja ein weißer Strich zwischen ihnen. Das ist bestimmt sicher...

Show threadDon-kunNov 14, 2022
@torstengrieger @BrentToderian Die Studie hat nur Städte in den USA betrachtet und die Ergebnisse sind daher wegen des deutlich anderen Verkehrsverhaltens und allgemein anderen Straßenraumgestaltung nicht auf andere Länder übertragbar. Vielmehr gibt es aus anderen Ländern Studien, die Sicherheitsvorteile für diverse Formen von Radverkehr auf der Fahrbahn aufzeigen - sogar für die oft gescholtenen Schutzstreifen.
Show threadMel_outdoorsNov 14, 2022
@BrentToderian so common for parking in cycle lanes - always feels unsafe for cyclists - exactly how this article describes - ‘Not all protected bike lanes provide the same level of security for cyclists and drivers. In Denver, for instance, some protected lanes have plastic bollards that are interspersed along the roadway, allowing cars and trucks to park in the bike path and forcing cyclists to swerve into the street.’
Show threadlittlebigfredNov 14, 2022

@BrentToderian

Painted-bike lane = removing window guard rails and telling people to just stand away © Stein van Oosteren*

* Unlike Twitter, typing a @ sign doesn't autocomplete

Show threadPaul Rhoné (secondaire)Nov 14, 2022
@littlebigfred @BrentToderian
Yes it does, depending on the client or app you're using. Here is the one you wanted to summon : @SteinVanOosteren
Show threadlittlebigfredNov 14, 2022

@paulrhone

Yes indeed (Pinafone), thx

Show threadMaj 🇨🇦Nov 14, 2022
@BrentToderian I didn't know the word for them but now I can say "Sharrows are terrible" and have the research to back it up!
Show threadStephen Webb has movedNov 14, 2022
Hi @BrentToderian Bike commuter here based in the UK. I haven't heard of the word "sharrow" before. Is that a US coinage?
Show threadDr. Tineke D'HaeseleerNov 19, 2023
@stephenwebb @BrentToderian
Yes, maybe also Canada?- it’s painting a chevron arrow and a little bike on the road where cars go, and calling it good. “Share [the road] arrow” portmanteau. Both concept and word are about the most stupid things to happen in the history of cycling as transport that I know about. I did not like them one bit and I am v glad I survived long enough to get out!
Show threadLuluNov 14, 2022
@BrentToderian
I found that separate bike lanes don't do anything at all if the traffic culture remains car-centric, judging by how many times my bike was totalled and I got injured by cars crossing the separator pavement/greenery to drive/park on the bike lane.
Show threadonce wasNov 14, 2022
@BrentToderian I would get a bike if this was available in my city but people get killed on bicycles all the time - it is just not a safe option
Show threadLet's go to the 3DBB.Nov 14, 2022
@BrentToderian I'm in NYC where protected bike lanes are being constructed at a rapid clip. It's a good thing mostly but the two issues that irk are: given the relative use between cars and bikes, a lot more money is being allocated to the bikers per usage/mile; noisy, dirty car traffic is even worse with narrowed car lanes (which is part of the plan I think - a disincentive to bringing your car into town but a drag if you're living with it).
Show threadMattjlawlorNov 14, 2022
@BrentToderian And yet we still see DZBLs and sharrows all too often. Thanks for this reminder of just how bad they are.
Show threadLord LostyNov 15, 2022
@BrentToderian it is a good idea, but it would never work in my country. People just don’t follow rules here 😔
Show threadGeorge CzernuszkaNov 15, 2022

@BrentToderian
Have you seen this? The whole thread is worth viewing.

RT @[email protected]

Today I went into two Oxford schools and spoke to about 40 teenagers who cycle to school about what we needed to change on their routes. They marked specific dangers up on A1 maps. I’ve just finished reviewing them. A 🧵

https://twitter.com/emilykerr36/status/1590110317010628608

#cycling

Cllr Emily Kerr 💚 on Twitter

“Today I went into two Oxford schools and spoke to about 40 teenagers who cycle to school about what we needed to change on their routes. They marked specific dangers up on A1 maps. I’ve just finished reviewing them. A 🧵”

Twitter
Show threadTrans Canada Bike RouteNov 16, 2022

@GeorgeCzernuszka @BrentToderian
This can be done anywhere!

It's amazing how many municipalities don't bother to directly ask the students about the infrastructure - or lack of infrastructure that prevents students cycling to school.

Good old fashioned paper maps work best, and for people to draw directly on a very large local area map to show the route they take to school, making a heatmap for the whole student body.

Show threadDavid BergNov 19, 2022
@BrentToderian Wait, you're saying this doesn't make me safer?
Show threadALL CAPS 🧢🧢🧢Nov 23, 2022

@BrentToderian I don’t know what city planners actually do, but anyone who has ever ridden a bike on city streets already knows this.

Crazy that they still do these things, especially the “sharrows”!!

Show threadLuís OliveiraNov 29, 2022

@BrentToderian does that picture (which is missing a description for blind people, etc) which seems to have plastic bollards count as a protected bike lane?

P.S.: if you follow @PleaseCaption, he'll remind you whenever you forget to caption your images.