Me on the official Mastodon project Discord, having to deal with a hate apologist who thinks that "debating" hate is a good idea, and I'm just

and I'm just

livid? I'm just livid.

oh and me calling that opinion "Absolute trash" (because it is) got ME told off for being insulting
Got me told off by Eugen, I want to be clear.
@aurynn yup and honestly he just wants his feed to be the next hellsite. He doesn't care about the people who came here to escape the toxicity.
@aurynn Im....
@CaribenxMarciaX Eternal October continues 😞
@aurynn @CaribenxMarciaX the tone policing, gaslighting and mansplaining are quite strong on here. In fact I anticipate a bunch of comments mansplaining to me that there’s no “here” since it’s federated.
@timnitGebru @aurynn @CaribenxMarciaX I hate this. “Federation” is no excuse for cowards to sit back and let the worst actors cultivate yet another kind of libertarian hellscape. 40-400 years of history demands better from them — let alone everyone that’s here right now.
@timnitGebru @CaribenxMarciaX if you see that sort of behaviour coming from my instance please report it, I will deal with it appropriately

@timnitGebru @aurynn I think so long as ppl are open and honest with what their expectations are, good community can be built and found. I have learned as much.

But there's a sector of performative 'activism' and a need to commodify identity on here that turns into little wars amongst groups.

I have had to hold onto the "Imma just protect me and mines" approach just to stay clear headed.

@timnitGebru @aurynn @CaribenxMarciaX They'd be so wrong, since the 'local timeline' is really a thing, and that is definitely a 'here' to me.
@aurynn That is... so fucked up. Ugh.
@aurynn well, I’m now going to migrate to .art.
@Storytellr2002 👍 Do not blame you, good luck o7

@aurynn

Website Boy reminds me of a Non-Profit Tech CEO I know.

@aurynn
Nazis and their ilk play the insulting card when you’re really just describing them accurately.
@aurynn did they think they were on 4chan?
@aurynn NO NAZIS IN THE BAR
@welshpixie @aurynn "you let a Nazi in your bar and you're now the Nazi bar"
@aurynn Hang in there because fighting the good fight makes you one of the heroes we all need. How it is so widely acceptable to blatantly be a 'baddie' with no sense of irony or self-awareness - or, let's face it, compassion - says too much about how little we have progressed as a species. And now, we are destroying ourselves and taking everything out with us. You and what you do give hope. Thank you.
@aurynn you see if we debate then we can find some common ground about the right way to hate people. You have to see both sides of the issue. #irony
@aurynn @timnitGebru ooh can I come over and tear him apart for the lulz
@aurynn “Why doesn’t anyone but white, straight, cis, Euro-American men participate in Open Source projects?” (Sarcasm)
@aurynn I just found out the Mastodon project has Discord. So it cannot handle itself?! I mean why don't they communicate here?

@hadilq
> Mastodon project has Discord... why don't they communicate here?

Different interfaces are good for different things. The 'verse is a firehose in which urgent and important things are easy to miss. Realtime chat is a better way for server admins to address emergent threats (new instances sending spam or abuse, DDoS attacks, non-consensual archiving of non-Public posts etc).

(Untagging Aurynn intentionally, as she's probably had more than enough of this thread in her @mentions)

@hadilq
It's a shame that Mastodon uses Discord though, instead of a federated chat room on matrix or XMPP. In fact, I reckon @snikket_im would be ideal for this.
@aurynn yeah maybe bout time to get off this here instance

@aurynn @Memeghnad Looks like @HisNameIsOx had it right when he made this (possibly satirical) prediction:

https://woof.group/@HisNameIsOx/109304038360496567

🤷‍♂️

Ox and the Great Unknown (@[email protected])

T-5 months until the very first Mastodon Drama

woof.group
@shrikant @aurynn @Memeghnad It was satirical but yeah, quite possible. I'm hoping people will have the capability to learn - I myself have not been here long so still getting used to some things - and those who don't... Can you back. This ain't your house, Mary.
@aurynn For some reason I can’t remember my Roman numerals for 51, 6, and 500.
@aurynn Liberal obsession with the fictitious "marketplace of ideas". It's a fundamentally-incorrect view of human nature that presumes we're all perfectly rational souls wrapped in physical accidents that obscure us from "the truth" unless we exercise our will to overcome it and become smarter, more virtuous, and more economically-productive. They might as well be gnostics.