https://communitymedia.video/w/h1jdbHm8xTj5VEDuCWAbBW
#lispyGopherClimate #technology #podcast #weekly

featuring @kentpitman @ramin_hal9001 @jns
Longterm #reliability , the #climateCrisis , technology and knowledge

Kent has found the source to his Cross referenced editing facility from Open University #lisp #lispm example.

#scifi #books with this theme? Ending of Cats Cradle?

On the #art side check, @prahou 's #unix_surrealism, https://photronic.art

Happy #lambdaMOO year! 35 years! https://lambda.moo.mud.org as always.

@weekend_editor @charliemac @symbolics @restorante @crandel @Zenie @weavejester correct, I do recall, โ€˜sheetโ€™ was the core abstraction in the #LispM window system. #CLIM made that a first-class concept, and #McCLIM still carries it forward today

@amszmidt @restorante @demiguru @crandel @alerque@mastodon.social @weavejester

> And the editor on #LispM is called ZWEI.

Well, technically... :-)

ZWEI (Zwei Was Eine Initially) was the infrastructure for writing editors, while the actual editor on the lispm was called Zmacs. In practice, nobody messed with Zwei unless they were extending Zmacs.

I have no experience of Eine, or at least no memory of it.

And yes, Zmacs was different from Gnu Emacs, which was different from all the other Emacsen before it.

@restorante > Emacs in Unix possibly is different with Emacs (EINE, ZWEINE) on Lisp Machine.

Absolute nonsense. Stop confusing GNU Emacs, an implementation of Emacs, plus many other things.

And the editor on #LispM is called ZWEI.

@demiguru @crandel @alerque @Zenie@piaille.fr @weavejester

@demiguru @restorante @crandel @alerque @Zenie@piaille.fr @weavejester

There is so much confusion in this thread that I don't know where to even start.

And no, #LispM did NOT expose the "whole stack as live, editable Lisp".

Emacs and GNU Emacs are also worth keeping separate when talking about these topics.

Current work in #LispMachine world is to implement the bus interface for the CADR 4 project (https://github.com/ams/cadr4).

That is so we can add a spy interface .. #LispM #MIT #LM-3

GitHub - ams/cadr4: CADR4 -- accurate model of the MIT CADR

CADR4 -- accurate model of the MIT CADR. Contribute to ams/cadr4 development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub

@vv I wish I could find those programs and restore them. ๐Ÿ˜ž

There are plenty of fun ones, like the 3D airplane model.

#LispMachine #LispM

CADR4 #MIT #CADR #LispM #LispMachine current status is we are optimizing the simulation runtime (it takes about 10 minutes to run through almost all the boot PROM to the point we are accessing memory -- which isn't fun when you want to work on accessing memory).

#Lisp #VHDL #HDL

https://github.com/ams/cadr4

GitHub - ams/cadr4: CADR4 -- accurate model of the MIT CADR

CADR4 -- accurate model of the MIT CADR. Contribute to ams/cadr4 development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub
Someone should write some #MIT #CADR microcode and supporting code to make it possible to run #Interlisp / #Medley on the #MIT #LispMachine #LispM

CADR4 #MIT #CADR #LispMachine #LispM is now running almost through the whole boot PROM!

Now work to add disk, and memory .. and a bus.