Als Europäer können bei so einem Schritt nur noch alle Alarmglocken klingeln.
Was für eine absolute S!)"&sse.
WTF, #ixsystems! Oh mann. Echt. #TrueNAS
https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1rpck7k/truenas_build_system_going_closed_source/
Als Europäer können bei so einem Schritt nur noch alle Alarmglocken klingeln.
Was für eine absolute S!)"&sse.
WTF, #ixsystems! Oh mann. Echt. #TrueNAS
https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1rpck7k/truenas_build_system_going_closed_source/
TrueNAS CORE finally disappeared from the software status page for TrueNAS.
For posterity, November and December 2025:
<https://web.archive.org/web/20251114033428/https://www.truenas.com/software-status/>
<https://web.archive.org/web/20251127043850/https://www.truenas.com/docs/softwarestatus/>
<https://web.archive.org/web/20251218152018/https://www.truenas.com/docs/softwarestatus/>
Reading this doco on #Debian with ZFS for the root and even part of the boot filesystem …
… I am struck by two things:
1. PC-BSD 10 back in 2016 was doing doing all of these manual steps automatically in the installer. All of those separate filesystems and special options for /usr and the like were just installer defaults in PC-BSD. It even had GRUB configured so that it did the right things, *and* worked with beadm.
2. The IXsystems people, who did PC-BSD and later TrueOS, switched to Linux years ago. Why hasn't their demonstrable expertise in making installers and GRUB do all this with ZFS been harnessed?
As #TrueNAS #Mini series from #iXsystems was often 'the' hardware choice for #FreeBSD based TrueNAS CORE systems - sometimes people look for information how to build such systems themselves.
Here are vendors of main components of TrueNAS Mini series.
I'm looking to replace an old NAS, and started looking into TrueNAS (the OS(es)). I haven't yet come across any compelling reason why I shouldn't just use FreeBSD instead. However, while investigating that, I noticed that TrueNAS also makes actual computers, and I kind of like what I've seen of...
As #TrueNAS #Mini series from #iXsystems was often 'the' hardware choice for #FreeBSD based TrueNAS CORE systems - sometimes people look for information how to build such systems themselves.
Here are vendors of main components of TrueNAS Mini series.
I'm looking to replace an old NAS, and started looking into TrueNAS (the OS(es)). I haven't yet come across any compelling reason why I shouldn't just use FreeBSD instead. However, while investigating that, I noticed that TrueNAS also makes actual computers, and I kind of like what I've seen of...
Sometimes I think, maybe I should use TrueNAS, and then I remembered that their C•Suite decided to give the 🖕🏻 to FreeBSD... the very same operating system and community of developers and engineers who enabled their company to exist from the start, to scale to the level which brought them success and growth and accolades from the OSS and enterprise storage communities alike.
So no, I don't use TrueNAS. Whatever many reasons they and their indolent fanboys push for moving to Linux, and I have heard them all, it's irrelevant. They didn't just bite the hand that feeds, they went straight over to the clown-show makeup meme table and slathered it on; trying so hard to convince everyone including themselves that this betrayal was the Good and Ethical thing to do.
Luckily there are alternatives, and those will get my time, engineering efforts, and fiscal support. One thing to remember: alienated users do not recommend those formerly loved products to their employers, they do not "spread the love" via organic marketing, and perhaps sometimes they dissuade when they would formerly embrace.
#freebsd #truenas #oss #enterprisearchitecture #homelab #storage #ixsystems #mistakes #corporategreed
This weekend I learned that #NAS systems like #TrueNAS are less limited by network bandwidth than by their #SATA backplanes. I'm only getting sustained SATA speeds of 400 MB/s over a 10 Gbps link when running unquantized #LLM models. That's unusable.
I'd expect a 10-wide RAIDZ2 vdev to provide better read performance than that, but apparently not with my current setup. I'm not yet convinced that an #iXsystems SATA enclosure would do any better.
Starting to write down questions and things to do so that I can migrate from TrueNAS Core to vanilla FreeBSD for my home server.
I suspect that this will be easier than I think (thanks to ZFS), but it's very worrying, especially since I don't have a good way to back up 1.25 TB of data.
Guess I'll have to buy a new beefier external drive.
@TomAoki multiple separate overlapping of-topic discussions are inevitable at times such as this.
Partly off-topic, one of the things that I love about Discourse is the automated cross-referencing (linking) when quoting from one topic in another. Readers can be aware of the spread of things, with zero fuss.
There can be no cure for the few people who will not tolerate Internet links (to external content, beyond the bubble of The FreeBSD Forums).
That aside: a shift from XenForo to Discourse could, slowly but effectively, cure a fair amount of what's problematic – without admin/moderator intervention. True: the most hostile offenders might, in the early months of a transition, abuse the aspects of Discourse through which moderation is automated.
The optimist in me believes that Discourse is mature enough for such abuse to become apparent, and then easily stamped out. Result:
― a better community, for everyone.
Food for thought, <https://forums.truenas.com/>:
― the result of a swiftly executed, effective move from XenForo to Discourse.
#FreeBSD #iXsystems #TrueNAS # #Discourse #XenForo #forums #forum #discussion #abuse #troublemakers #narrowminded #clique #hostility