R.I.P. Mr #Kirk, social media and university debate preacher of #hate. Shooting him made him a #martyr for sure. So if they did it to stop his #reactionary poison be spread I don’t see a chance it worked. Thus they committed a #crime and became #guilty for nought. I mean, Kirk is guilty of #instigation, but a victim’s guilt is never an excuse nor a justification.

When Dietrich #Bonhoeffer gave his two cents in the discussion if assassinating Hitler was ethically permitted he said they were guilty either way: Let the #Nazis go on with their #Fascist agenda, murdering millions of human bodies and souls, or, kill the Fuehrer. So, he said, if killing one spared many humans’ lifes he would choose to kill the one. But, he continued, an isolated tyrannicide wasn’t wise politically, because killing the head alone wouldn’t stop the Fascist machine. (All paraphrased by me)

Kirk wasn’t as important as Hitler, of course, but the same weighing of the real political effect should have been done here.

A quotation from Cicero

For what difference is there between someone who urges an action before it is done and someone who applauds it afterwards? What does it matter whether I wanted it done or was pleased that it had been done?
 
[Quid enim interest inter suasorem facti et probatorem? Aut quid refert utrum voluerim fieri an gaudeam factum?]

Marcus Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC) Roman orator, statesman, philosopher
Philippics [Philippicae; Antonian Orations], No. 2, ch. 12 / sec. 29 (2.12/2.29) (44-10-24 BC) [tr. Berry (2006)]

Sourcing, notes, other translations: wist.info/cicero-marcus-tulliu…

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