@aral @staff @haubles

I agree 100% with you for the need of a 'post under moderation' flag. That would make mod's work so much easier, also because it removes a lot of pressure to come up with a firm decision taken consensually by a team of volunteers dispersed over all timezones.

Nevertheless, I am still i favour of mods being able to delete posts (there's a lot of heinous shit we don't see because somebody made an early report and the mods could act swiftly on obviously horrible things®).

I mean, moderation errors sometimes happen and post deletions can be already reversed.

On the other side, although I am more on the 'if you don't like your mods decisions, move to another instance'-argument side, the moving costs are too high (you'll loose your posts and sometimes followers) and in practice, at the moment of setting up an account it is not possible to know how moderation rules are enforced on a specific instance.

EDIT: that said, it is of course preferrable when mods contact users with 'hey, for reasons XY we suggest that you delete the post'. But again, this works only for the 'homo fediresponsiblus' kind of person and then there's also the mod-workload thing.

#Fedimoderation #Moderation

@afewbugs

Your points in this thread about harassment of visible female/POC accounts are extremely valid.

Might be really one of the reasons why Mastodon still struggles to get traction. (Caveat: we should care more about the people, not so much about comparing user counts of platforms, of course).
Dear people, consider also that it is much easier to endure the infrequent but still horrible nazi-harasser when you feel supported by the community. When you feel unwelcome because of replyguys and mansplainers, maybe you don't have the spoons to endure the additional "real" targeted harassment..

Sadly, I know no silver bullet for this situation besides all the stuff we know already:

- don't be an asshole reply guy. Breathe before responding. Ask yourself: does the world really need my answer? Read people's profiles before interacting, especially when you disagree with something. (This helps also to reduce mansplaining)
- don't question the experience of people describing harassment. Just don't.
- report harassment also when it targets others. And step in. No need to be overzealous and get the pitchforks when a possibly neurodivergent person (especially when english is not their native language) writes a post in a weird tone. Our social media culture is heavily US-centered and not everybody understands the same codes. Learn ways to step in responsibly and adequate. A restorative justice approach might be more productive than outrage cyclesin the long run, but of course, there are clear red lines.
- for mods/afmins: consider stricter anti-harassment moderation and less "this is the internet, man up" - discourses
- support people that try to implement anti-harassment tools into Mastodon, because of course, it is the culture of human interactions in each place, but the available tools for moderation and interaction (e. g. control over visibility, optional restrict replies or similar). Some stuff is moving in the right direction, but still I have sometimes the sensation that stuff like fancy buttons is prioritized over these things.
- fucking listen to people.
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#FediModeration #Moderation #MastodonModeration #Harassment

It wouldn't catch all malicious actors, of course. But it seems like it'd be nice to at least force them to use names that are a little opaque, instead of being able to have outright slurs *right in their very account names*. Is there no such feature in the software? (And if not, why not? I'm a software developer, I *know* it couldn't be that difficult to implement.) 2/2

#Fedi #meta #moderation #FediModeration

@michael @abnv

phew... these instances are all three fash-adjacent low-quality shit. Sorry that you had to make this experience.

We at kolektiva are not very restrictive and federate broadly (it's always a balance, some people might feel safer at a smaller instance and thats perfectly fine), but there is a limit.

There were several attempts of automatic shared #blocklists but many had their own issues too (errors, biases, power concentration in the hands of drama-seeking mods...), leading to conflicts and burnt bridges.

Nevertheless, this is the internet, and there is a baseline of shit that doesn't require much discussion to be blocked.

I really advise new admins to use e.g. the suggestions made by @Seirdy , with very well organized receipts.

https://seirdy.one/posts/2023/05/02/fediverse-blocklists/?ref=privacy.thenexus.today#supplementary-blocklists

or

@Db0 's #Fediseer
https://gui.fediseer.com/instances/censured

Fediseer has the nice feature that you can select several instances you trust as a source for blocking suggestions.

(Thank you both -and the others involved- for your work!)

Both made the decision to not provide a "ready to import-blokcklist", which makes it silightly more work to use them, but that other admin have to go individually through the list and block every instance individually is also a feature, since it minimizes some of the problems of blocklists.

#FediModeration #Blocklists