The unfiltered paper, with all the major deficits outlined by Kong's/New Phyt's #PeerReview experts still in it, is now online on bioRvix.

Worth et al. Whole #chloroplast #Genomes reveal a complex genetic legacy of #LostLineages, past radiations and #SecondaryContacts in the dominant temperate deciduous tree genus #Fagus

https://doi.org/10.1101/2025.06.03.653586

Being not limited, we moved a few more figures from the supplement to the main text 😎

https://figshare.com/projects/Supplement_to_Worth_et_al_2025_Reticulate_history_of_beech/251480

#PhyloNetworks #reticulate #evolution

@chasewnelson

Have one like that, too, on stock. Only funny on the surface. Haunting when one has to deal with it. Intrinsic problem of #evolution: appearances (phenotypes) change over time. The cause of pheno-geno-incongruence is just an expected, not uncommon legacy of how #species originate.

Pics from Monophyletic species 12/2021
https://researchinpeace.blogspot.com/2021/12/monophyletic-species.html
Disclaimer: #LongRead contains #PhyloNetworks
#OldPosts

Monophyletic species

About the monophyly of species, conceptualisation and real-world application

PS If they only had a slightly invested #phylogeneticist at hand; they easily could have learned a lot about the strengths and weaknesses of their data and preferred tree (a Bayesian MRC, by the way, is a summary tree of various competing topologies sampled in the MCMC chain, not a phylogenetic tree)

Here's a quick #NeighbourNet based on their "toutes" matrix (inferred in less than a minute), annotated.
Overall #similarity makes #clades, surprise, surprise.

#PhyloNetworks #linguistics

Nice to (finally) see bootstrap consensus networks picked up, #Phylogenomics meeting #PhyloNetworks

Raiyemo & Tranel, 2023, BMC Ecol Evol, #OpenAccess

Comparative analysis of dioecious Amaranthus plastomes and phylogenomic implications within Amaranthaceae s.s.

https://bmcecolevol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12862-023-02121-1

1st pic, semi-classic cladogram, but adding internode certainty values below the branches.
2nd pic, the maximum likelihood bootstrap consensus network visualising the competing alternatives.

Comparative analysis of dioecious Amaranthus plastomes and phylogenomic implications within Amaranthaceae s.s. - BMC Ecology and Evolution

Background The genus Amaranthus L. consists of 70–80 species distributed across temperate and tropical regions of the world. Nine species are dioecious and native to North America; two of which are agronomically important weeds of row crops. The genus has been described as taxonomically challenging and relationships among species including the dioecious ones are poorly understood. In this study, we investigated the phylogenetic relationships among the dioecious amaranths and sought to gain insights into plastid tree incongruence. A total of 19 Amaranthus species’ complete plastomes were analyzed. Among these, seven dioecious Amaranthus plastomes were newly sequenced and assembled, an additional two were assembled from previously published short reads sequences and 10 other plastomes were obtained from a public repository (GenBank). Results Comparative analysis of the dioecious Amaranthus species’ plastomes revealed sizes ranged from 150,011 to 150,735 bp and consisted of 112 unique genes (78 protein-coding genes, 30 transfer RNAs and 4 ribosomal RNAs). Maximum likelihood trees, Bayesian inference trees and splits graphs support the monophyly of subgenera Acnida (7 dioecious species) and Amaranthus; however, the relationship of A. australis and A. cannabinus to the other dioecious species in Acnida could not be established, as it appears a chloroplast capture occurred from the lineage leading to the Acnida + Amaranthus clades. Our results also revealed intraplastome conflict at some tree branches that were in some cases alleviated with the use of whole chloroplast genome alignment, indicating non-coding regions contribute valuable phylogenetic signals toward shallow relationship resolution. Furthermore, we report a very low evolutionary distance between A. palmeri and A. watsonii, indicating that these two species are more genetically related than previously reported. Conclusions Our study provides valuable plastome resources as well as a framework for further evolutionary analyses of the entire Amaranthus genus as more species are sequenced.

BioMed Central

@laufran

Very nice that finally somebody looked into this. Simply love it!
The suspicion(s) has (have) been out there for quite some time.

Remember discussing this as a potential issue on the #PhyloNetworks workshop in Leiden a few years ago

Distinguishability in Phylogenetic Networks
https://phylonetworks.blogspot.com/2018/08/distinguishability-in-phylogenetic_22.html

Nice, we now know, we worried not for vain ;)

Distinguishability in Phylogenetic Networks, report

We have now completed the workshop, as you can tell from the previous post with some photos . Here is a brief report on what seem to me to ...

@phylofred

With an interest in messy and recombinant trees, or as I'd call them #PhyloNetworks, you might want to browse through the now dormant but still worth a look
Genealogical World of Phylogenetic Networks by David Morrison
http://phylonetworks.blogspot.com/

Pic is from the last post by Leo van Irsel.

And don't miss Philippe Gambet's Who is Who in Phylogenetic Networks
http://phylnet.univ-mlv.fr/

The Genealogical World of Phylogenetic Networks

Biology, anthropology, computational science, and networks in phylogenetic analysis

@chasewnelson

A classic. I still use it for simple things, MP and LS/NJ bootstrapping and distance matrix calculations. But it's more <2000, the last version was 2002 I think.

In 2006, we had already #MrBayes and #GARLI

And I already had gone #PhyloNetworks with SplitsTree in conjunction with PAUP* (for distance matrix), #RAxML (-III just out) and MrBayes.

Pics from:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2674679/

A Nuclear Ribosomal DNA Phylogeny of Acer Inferred with Maximum Likelihood, Splits Graphs, and Motif Analysis of 606 Sequences

The multi-copy internal transcribed spacer (ITS) region of nuclear ribosomal DNA is widely used to infer phylogenetic relationships among closely related taxa. Here we use maximum likelihood (ML) and splits graph analyses to extract phylogenetic information ...

PubMed Central (PMC)

This week 4 #OldPosts on what #PhyloNetworks have to offer for #Fossil #Phylogenetics in the context of exploratory data analysis (#EDA)

Summarizing non-trivial Bayesian tree samples for dating? Just use support consensus networks—https://phylonetworks.blogspot.com/2018/01/summarizing-non-trivial-bayesian-tree.html

Large morphomatrices – trivial signal—https://phylonetworks.blogspot.com/2020/02/large-morphomatrices-trivial-signal.html

Should we try to infer trees on tree-unlikely matrices?—https://phylonetworks.blogspot.com/2017/07/should-we-try-to-infer-trees-on.html

More non-treelike data forced into trees: a glimpse into the dinosaurs—https://phylonetworks.blogspot.com/2017/08/more-non-treelike-data-forced-into.html

Summarizing non-trivial Bayesian tree samples for dating? Just use support consensus networks

In a recent paper published in Systematic Biology , Joseph O’Reilly and Philip Donoghue (2017) shed some light on an issue concerning Bayes...

@Thomashegna Given the problems with this group, jumping clades from analysis to analysis, hard to grasp taxonomically, deep rooting and unique, anyone ever thought of doing exploratory data analysis involving networks (data-display and phylogenetic)?

It may be one of the many groups where one simply faces "Hilgendorf's dilemma" #OldPosts on Geneal. World of Phylog. Networks by D. Morrison 2014

The dilemma of evolutionary networks and Darwinian trees—https://phylonetworks.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-dilemma-of-evolutionary-networks.html
#PhyloNetworks

The dilemma of evolutionary networks and Darwinian trees

I have noted before that Franz Hilgendorf (1839-1904), a German palaeontologist, was apparently the first person to publish a Darwinian tre...

#OldPosts trilogy time (still working on 3rd pt of my maple phylogenomics post). #Phylogenetics, or #Phylogenomics, is not just blackboxes, give your data a closer look using #Phylonetworks. Ex. in my 2019 "Why the emperor has no clothes on" miniseries
#1: The mighty matK—https://phylonetworks.blogspot.com/2019/10/why-emperor-has-no-clothes-on-mighty.html
#2: A thicket of trees—https://phylonetworks.blogspot.com/2019/11/why-emperor-has-no-clothes-on-thicket.html
#3: Conflict or not?—https://phylonetworks.blogspot.com/2019/11/why-emporer-has-no-clothes-on-conflict.html
Why the emperor has no clothes on – the mighty matK

In a recent paper published in PeerJ , Walker et al. (2019) take a close look at the complete plastome data of angiosperms. Although they ...