@alrs @aria The #PGP private key is encrypted with your (hashed) password: https://proton.me/support/how-is-the-private-key-stored before being uploaded to Proton's server. This is how you bootstrap on a new machine!

You can export (https://proton.me/support/download-public-private-key) or import (https://proton.me/support/importing-openpgp-private-key) the keypair as you like.

#Proton is "just" doing what people have been doing for decades with things like #Enigmail. I used #Gnus for #Emacs some 20 years ago for the same thing 😄 The achievement of Proton is to make this seem easy!

@rakoo @delta @cy @thunderbird

It is a good tool because it allows for self-custody of keys.

• Also by that notion manually setting up an eMail account is also complicated for anything that Thunderbird can't autoguess or doesn't have in it's database.

Shure that isn't an excuse for #Thunderbird to not deliver sane defaults and handhold users asking them at account creation/import if they want to create/import a keypair and/or wish to automatically activate it.

• Same with pulic keys: #Enigmail used to have the nice feature to automagically attach the Pubkey to every eMail and to automatically sign and encrypt them. In fact I have this preconfigured to the point that any non-encrypted eMail requires me to manually confirm stuff.

I don't "belittle people for not knowing how to use gpg" but instead acknowledge the lack of #TechLiteracy as a matter of facts because most people got groomed into being consoomers and into ignorant users.

• It's not their fault, it's decades of failed education and awareness that now demand compound interest like credit card debt.

@rakoo @cy yeah, tho @thunderbird nowadays has #OpenPGP / #GPG - support built in ( #Enigmail ) and that just works.

• But @delta / #deltaChat does make things way easier for "#TechIlliterate #Normies" and provides them with a familiar #UI & #UX from other #Messengers whilst also not requiring "yet another #server / #service" to be spun up, which is a major no-no in many organizations, espechally #businesses.

• Whereas DeltaChat using #eMail as it's backbone infrastructure works fine, and that is an important point for it like #business use [i.e. #Germany] where all business communications have to be archived for at least 10 years for tax auditability reasons, and the whole #MailArchival issue has been "solved" by multiple providers and solutions so it makes sense to just do a +chat suffix, filter said messages and have them in the same #inbox as all other eMails.

I just wished #Thunderbird would also support displaying such chats similar to deltaChat to provide a #unified experience across platforms...