@NebulaTide @justine @reiddragon Obvioulsly everything is a trade-off at some point...

• #OpenBSD stays consistent with their goals and project scope despite pressure and I think that is admireable.
• Personally I too aim for something non-mainstream as a side project (@OS1337) but I don't expect to come lose what they achieved.

As for #BSDjails and #bhyve, I really should take a closer look at these, because it's always good to have some lightweight alternatives at hand.

• After all, I've seen first-hand how lack of #competiton and #LockIn can shaft businesses really hard (points at #vmware)...

@ytc1 @DenOfEarth @aka_pugs I know.

And espechally in #ScientificComputing a lot of researchers loved working with #SunMicrosystems and when #Oracle took over that relationship got sour'd instantly due to #Oracle #CEO #LarryEllison...

-> https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114682503920794745

One of the big successes of #Sun was that they basically declared a unilateral "ceasefire" in terms of #IP & #Patents re: #OpenSource. Whereas Oracle didn't seem willing to honour that.

• Without that cooperative atmosphere we saw #OpenOffice devs literally forking off into @libreoffice and projects like #illumos and @openzfs scramble to save what was OpenSource'd and also rescue that.

Obviously #Linux with it's #GPLv2only-Kernel and most of it's Userland could not get 'closed-sourced' like #OpenSolaris which instantly got stomped out by Oracle as they wanted to sqeeze #Solaris for profits and milk their clients in typical Oracle fashion...

• Which is sad because #competition breeds #innovation and a lot of stuff like #Zones in Solaris really were at their time really forcing #KVM, #bhyve and #BSDjails to up their game for good.

Now granted, I do know someone who for most of their life made their money dealing with the intricacies of setting up #postfix, #sendmail and #courier #MailServers on Solaris and if I ask said person about that they give me a kilometer stare, so OFC like a #SysV - #Unix systems Solaris and #SunOS really are one of the reasons #WindowsNT won the "#WorkstationWar" and why - if anyone - #Apple won the last "#UnixWar"...

• Still I do am sad that I declined that #sysadmin position at a leading research center I'm not at liberty to name and I do know there's OFC still some critical infrastructure running even older Solaris servers...

https://mastodon.sdf.org/@ytc1/114689337148586939

@torproject cool.

I hope this gets accepted into mainline #Linux kernel by @torvalds ...

It reminds me of some ancient #torification guides using #BSDjails...

@jorin #TopLEL!

• In the end it doesn't really matter whether you do full-/paravirtualization or go with specific tech like #bhyve, #BSDjails or #Docker / #Kubernetes...

" Lemme get it BONELESS! "