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This is the best take on Fermi's Paradox that I've ever seen.
"Eine verfassungsrechtlich zumindest absolut diskutable Position wird skandalisiert. Durch Verzerrungen, teils in böser Absicht, teils nur aus Ahnungslosigkeit. Und in noch nie dagewesenem Maße, nicht zuletzt dank der sozialen Medien."
This is the best take on Fermi's Paradox that I've ever seen.
@awfulwoman if you assume that becoming technological doesn't extend the likely lifespan of a species--which seems extremely likely--the odds of us existing at precisely the right time to intercept another intelligent species' radio noise even WITHIN the galaxy are pretty damn remote.
Even crocodiles would be wildly unlikely to have been around to intercept such a brief window, and it seems VERY unlikely that we'll make it to a single million years of tech, let alone hundreds of millions.
@jimsalter @awfulwoman I am absolutely optimistic about FTL and that's why I accept that it's not possible.
Impossibility of fascism ruling the entire universe or even multiple star systems is the most wonderful thing possible.
@dalias @awfulwoman it's essentially impossible for fascism to rule the one planet we already have, for that matter. They can't get rid of us any more than we can get rid of them. Humans try All The Things, both good and bad. It's hard wired into the design.
It depresses me that the fight against fascism can never be won once and for all, but it's a relief that it can never be LOST once and for all either.
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He lives in California with his wife, two dogs, a horrible cat, and too many books.
His book based on his twitter entries is called A Small Fiction.
Wishful thinking. Billions and billions spent, terabytes of data, thousands of searchers, decades of nitpicking study, and not one empty matchbook, not a sniff, not an atom out of place in a very very big Petrie dish.
Hopeful sure, even excited for the search, but the unlikeliness, the fragility, of this gossamar exception, is also fascinating and enervating.
And frightening. Its really very easy for a planet to fail.
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@kevinrns the wishful thinking isn't that intelligent life might exist elsewhere, the wishful thinking is that attaining some level of technology actually extends a species' likely lifespan.
PARTICULARLY in the absence of some magical technology, and I do mean, *magical*, that would make migrating to a new solar system practically possible. I'm pretty dubious that even interplanetary colonization will ever make sense, at this point.
The potential for Martian, lunar and asteroid belt habitation is 5 sigma.
Extra solar human activity has no supporting technology. Or expected technology.
Fermi's paradox is science. The mathematical potential for it is astounding, the evidence is zero, not just none.
Scale is hard for us.
If you had a pizza box and a bowl of soup.
And you ripped the pizza box in half, drew the biggest circle inside and pinned it to the wall. Then took the bowl of soup to the next room.
When you come back, look at your circle on the wall and pretend its a drawing of our galaxy.
Pull out the pin, don't drop the galaxy.
The hole in the pizza box from the pin, corresponds well with the distance all of earths radio has travelled since radio was invented.
Good visualisation; thank you.
May I ask what the soup-in-the-next-room represents?
I'm ashamed to say, Ross is right, its a planned joke.
The bowl of soup is for lunch.
Precisely, we can find no dirty bowls.
Since we started broadcasting radio waves over a hundred years ago, they've only reached a dozen or so stars. We'll be long gone before they reach any other civilization (if there's anyone still around there to hear it).
I like to think that buried in the universe's background noise is the incredibly weak remnants of countless dead alien civilization's radio chatter.
our lifespan is very short... an intergalactic species would need a lifespan of billions of years to bother coming to find us.
We would not recognise them, nor them us.
There is another contributor to the paradox that I don't see trotted out very often.
That blasted c thing! The speed of light and that hyper inflation thang means that vast areas of the universe are outside of those cute light cone things that you see in text books and QuantaMag articles.
The universe is too large to know if we can possibly communicate with all intelligent paradoxes.
I look forwards or perhaps backwards to the suitable XKCD.
@gerdesj yeah, I talk about that a lot. I think most people who talk about Fermi's are aware of c... But most of them are science fiction fans, so even if they don't think FTL will ever happen, they still tend to think that a technological species should survive essentially forever. Which, if true, would leave the paradox intact.
But if you assume no greater lifespan for a technological civilization than for a typical species... Well. No more paradox.
I've long believed that to be the case.
@jimsalter life should exist out there, It took as few billion years to transition into multicellular organisms.
Probably, life at least exists there as a single-celled organisms
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