ana «model a7m2» 
🎶people say the fediverse runs on activitypub, but actually the fediverse runs on the tenuous web of mutual trust created between all of its participants, and activitypub is but the clumsy messenger
clara "parasocialist" sparksmuch of the fediverse is "public" in the same way a conversation between friends at the beach is public. sure you can hear what we're saying as you walk by and even join in, but if you sit silently beside us with a tape recorder to transcribe everything we say for further dissemination you're still being a creep
techbros however have no understanding of the value of social convention, and equate being able to do something with being allowed
i block the "trending" bots on sight, and if there's a whole server full of bots boosting posts i'll defederate from it. they have no right to insert themselves into my social fabric #tagsPub
Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK@ana some techbros are worse, they aren't even sitting silently near you but hiding behind a rock a few metres away or parked in a van nearby with a directional shotgun microphone, so you can't always see them unless you are actively looking out for such things, and even if you challenge them they might just say something like "I am recording seagulls for wildlife research"
mancube@ana i wish there was a way to block bots universally. i'm not interested in anything not posted by an actual person
Claire McNab@mancube I'd like some sort of bot block which allowed exceptions.
There are useful bots I'd be sorry to miss, such as RNLI Out om A Shout @outonashout
@2legged
nice, yeah i was just wondering if there were alert services of actual value you might miss out on with a blanket block.
@outonashout @ana
nice, yeah i was just wondering if there were alert services of actual value you might miss out on with a blanket block.
@outonashout @ana
@mancube also @altbot. It is very helpful.
stephen ryner jr. 🦉
snowyfox
acb@ana @cstross This. If the fediverse is suitable as personal media for confiding in/privately conversing with people one can vouch for, it needs robust privacy controls, perhaps along the old LiveJournal model only federated (which is the hard part).
There have been projects floated to add true DM functionality to ActivityPub with end to end encryption. If this comes to pass, it could be a basis for (reasonably) secure privacy controls.
Tywèle
Menno Deij - van Rijswijk@ana *click* /and that’s a wrap/ he whispered to no-one.
Phil Haigh@ana and this guy is defending hard, responding to every comment he can find with “but you can opt out” and choosing not to get the point.
fabiosantoscode@gulfie Sad. At least he can opt out from having to defend this, by making the bot opt-in.
Or sending an automated DM asking for consent or a better solution that wouldn't fit the format of my short joke.
fak@ana as evidenced by the sheer volume of videos of men (it's always men) approaching women in public, recording them without their knowledge or consent, then uploading those interactions to the internet to try and earn money https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy87wqz0q9o Even aging TV presenters aren't immune to violating other people's privacy for clicks https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx26p4vpgmko
there's also a trend in UK of middle aged white men wearing the spyglasses to "audit" the brown people in the petrol garage and check the pumps are accurate and putting all this on their social media channels (hoping for ad revenue) in spite of Trading Standards regularly doing these checks anyway with proper calibrated equipment (but the gammons feel they can't be trusted because its the public sector and not a "crusading individual").
Max L.
JackMex
Emily & Co. 🔜 [tbd] NOTACAMP@ana And the problem is when this is a neo-nazi stalker you might know irl but he uses an anonymous account. But I'm not gonna private my account for some fascist asshole.
Δestiny Μ
Niedliche Nacktschnecke ☑️@ana
I think it's more public like a dark, noisy club is public: you can talk, it is in principle possible that obe of the strangers in earshot is actually leaning in and listening, to maybe join the conversation (welcome or not) - or to be the creep with the tape recorder.
Und unlike at the sunny, open beach, it is *impossible* to know that there's no recorder creep about.
mirabilos🐈⬛@ana this!
Ranny Bergamotte@ana
I hope though it's ok if a lot of the time I just sit down next to company and listen silently, I'll bring some snacks to share, (without the recorder though, blegh that).
I hope though it's ok if a lot of the time I just sit down next to company and listen silently, I'll bring some snacks to share, (without the recorder though, blegh that).