What if we ban computers from using kids instead?
@jbz I'm afraid it's not computers who abuse kids, but people with computers.
Although, barring convicted felons from ever accessing the class of tools they used ever again, might actually deter some...
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The problem with these things is that most felons are often still to be convinced. There are a lot of weird people out there.
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@punissuer
Just to clarify, I don't mind 'weird' as in colourful and quirky people. I am happy to have those around as those are not dangerous kind of weird people.
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@pdmckone @jbz how can I make @EUCommission see this? Rather excellent.
@jbz (and grownups. )
@jbz and adults. Let the dogs and cats fight it out.
@jbz well that’s just crazy talk. 🖖
@jbz What about if we ban corporations and bigots from running social media.
@geoffl @jbz You forgot to ban the billionaires from running "social" media.
@jbz you mean people. if you say kids you implicitly create the need for "age verification" which is collecting more data instead of less...
@jbz This whole "debate" summed up in nine words. 👏🏼
@jbz doesn’t follow the gun lobby thought process- it’s not computers that cause the deprivation of kids (people) it’s the people using them? [let us make anything but don’t blame us if you do evil with it]
@jbz plz. That is exactly the rethoric used for killing privacy and mass surveillance.
@jbz How about having devices designed specifically for kids? No internet access but they can get calls and texts on phones, and off-line only laptops can run the programs they need to do homework and play non-online games. Then, when they're old enough they can own grown-up devices. They have to be of a certain age before they can drive a car or buy alcohol... (Not a real suggestion, but maybe a start for another way to think about the issues?)
@AskPippa @jbz Um, no, have you been paying attention at all? *sigh* Why are so many adults so eagar to treat young human beings as sub-human and undeserving of access to information, community, acceptance?
@jbz
Could cut into profit margins, it'd never fly.
@jbz or.. crazy idea.. ban computers from using all of us ?!

@jbz What if we ban billionaires from owning anything computer-related…?

Wait, I have an even better idea, what if we ban billionaires?

@jbz Yes. And I think adults deserve some protection, too.
@jbz We can talk about that after we ban them from using adults. Because adults are the ones they're using to do awful things. Reinvigorating hate that should have been long-buried, ushering in new waves of fascism, perpetuating fossil fuels and destroying our shared home, etc.
@jbz Unfortunately it's easier the other way.
@jbz computers shouldn't be allowed to use anything

@jbz this whole deal isn't really that hard... Just hold parents accountable for teaching kids about the internet. Don't Ban, but Teach.

Have we learned nothing from all of the "burn all XYZ books" movements?

@jbz Regulate platform behavior, not user behavior.

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Now that is a subject-verb-object campaign I could rally around.

@jbz we couldn't possibly do that, it might get in the way of the coming AI takeover!

@jbz @logicalmoody
Yes, and…

If we’d sent the Facebook bros to jail for stalking and put up strong privacy laws for everyone, kids might be better off

If they couldn’t sell kids (or anyone’s) data without seizure and forfeiture it’s hard to imagine us getting where we are

But 🤷🏻‍♂️

@jbz I still stand by the idea that we should ban over 50s from using social media.