@triptych Would love to, but @BNetzA says nope.
- As in: 'You cannot use any non-approved transcievers' and 'The primary users of said Band [ #GSM900 ] have every right to the exclusive frequency allocation they paid for.'
And as cool as it sounds, I'd rather not risk €50k+ in fines if not jailtime for #SpectrumViolation|s...
- Maybe someone will make a #LoRa / #Meshtastic version that uses 27/40/433/868MHz ?
I boosted your post tho, cuz the #Cybiko is still cool.
@JustinDerrick @triptych @BNetzA @toychicken #LoRa AFAICT is midband, uses spread-spectrum and wider channels, so it's not compatible with like #CEPT standardized #CB radio in 27MHz...
One could do #AFSK modulated Packet Radio, but most juristictions, like Germany, do not allow DIY of Transmitters but necessitate a certified radio to be used...
DIY-ing a compliant transciever is extremely costly due to certification req..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_band_radio#Frequency_allocations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISM_radio_band#Frequency_allocations
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/CB-Funk#CEPT-konforme_CB-Kan%C3%A4le_und_Mittenfrequenzen
@JustinDerrick @triptych @BNetzA @toychicken also AFAICT #LoRa does have #Patents and #Trademarks that [at least the chip] manufacturers have to license...
#Dash7 seems less constrained, but is obviously incompatible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LoRa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DASH7#OSS-7:_Dash7_open-source_stack
@JustinDerrick @triptych @BNetzA @toychicken
You'd likely have an easier time implementing #LiFi or even #IrDA over visible light spectrum if not a faster version of #RONJA.
- Something that @stman has been working on for some time, including a sort-of WDM to enable more bandwith by using different LEDs at different wavelenghts together and filtering them at the RX-end.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RONJA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li-Fi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IrDA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavelength-division_multiplexing
@JustinDerrick @triptych @toychicken @stman That being said:
#IrDA over visible light (regardless if free-field or cabled [i.e.Mini - #TOSlink] would be nifty tho, if it can do #broadcast...
But the problem is that unlike #LoRa these are designed as [half-]duplex protocols and not as something "replayable"...
So one would need to develop some protocol that is simplex and can facilitate said transfers in small packets.
https://github.com/kbtechnologies/ATP
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IrDA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOSLINK#Mini-TOSLINK
@JustinDerrick @triptych @toychicken @stman Either way, #Meshtastic & #LoRa is designed to exceed the range of #SRD radios that are common around the world...
@stman
i dug into one of the lora based protocols to see if there was anything interesting i could contribute. the lack of any intelligent timing and collision mitigation let alone harq stopped me from bothering. all of that stuff is toast the minute people truly need it or someone decides to interfere with it
it's cool hobby stuff but that's about it
@kkarhan @JustinDerrick @triptych @toychicken
@mancube @stman @JustinDerrick @triptych @toychicken exactly.
That's the disadvantage of a license-free, unmanaged and decentralized protocol stack.
- Like CB-Radio, it relies on all participants to be bona-fide and not malicious actors.
And by design it's rather aimed to be competing with Iridium SBD, ZigBee, WiFi, Bluetooth and IrDA than a orderly managed network like GSM and it's successors.
- Granted, it would be hard to implement the lessions @torproject learned with their network...
@mancube @stman @JustinDerrick @triptych @toychicken exactly.
That's the disadvantage of a license-free, unmanaged and decentralized protocol stack.
- Like CB-Radio, it relies on all participants to be bona-fide and not malicious actors.
And by design it's rather aimed to be competing with Iridium SBD, ZigBee, WiFi, Bluetooth and IrDA than a orderly managed network like GSM and it's successors.
- Granted, it would be hard to implement the lessions @torproject learned with their network...