Jane Bellamy
they/them might be giants ☭People will be running from the shame of supporting this the rest of their lives.
JackMexNever forget
GM7077
social elephant in the room
su_liam
Manannán mac Lir 🇺🇦 🇵🇸Daily reminder that israel is evil.
gürkan �’ :catlong_head_left::catlong_h::catlong_end_right:@babadookspinoza I saw the quotes/replies of that given tweet & that shame idea overestimates people by a huge margin. i’m seeing more and more signs that a huge chunk of people have absolutely no shame at all.
Joshua Kevins
bellegraylane@babadookspinoza oh my god…
Ronago@babadookspinoza I don't know if there will be shame. So far, they seem to wholeheartedly support this with no regret.
australopithecus@babadookspinoza
While this is irredeemably horrible because the number should be 0, it's also a good example for improving statistics literacy:
The age structure of the Gaza strip in 2023 (according to the CIA World Fact Book) was ~44.1% under 14 years old.
Assuming random distribution within that range, that's ~2.9% per 1-year age group (15 groups including 0, for those mathing along).
2.9% of 1000 pages gives us an expected 29 pages of 0-year-olds, and 145 pages expected under 5.
While this is irredeemably horrible because the number should be 0, it's also a good example for improving statistics literacy:
The age structure of the Gaza strip in 2023 (according to the CIA World Fact Book) was ~44.1% under 14 years old.
Assuming random distribution within that range, that's ~2.9% per 1-year age group (15 groups including 0, for those mathing along).
2.9% of 1000 pages gives us an expected 29 pages of 0-year-olds, and 145 pages expected under 5.
@babadookspinoza
In other words, these numbers show indiscrimnate killing of everyone, rather than a specific targeting of children.
They're still murdering tons of kids, of course, but we already knew that.
Not_Dieter_Rot@australopithecus @babadookspinoza
"It's ok to drop bombs on pupils in schools. Nerds will work the numbers to show that we don't specifically target children."
"It's ok to drop bombs on pupils in schools. Nerds will work the numbers to show that we don't specifically target children."
Joris Meys@australopithecus
Or, in other word: genocide.
What you've statistically proven, is that this is a genocide.
@JorisMeys @babadookspinoza
Well... On the one hand, it's not really being proven here specifically; this just shows the distribution of killings, not the extent of it. Very probably proof of war crimes (indiscriminate killing of civilians), but not necessarily of genocide specifically.
On the other hand, anyone still denying the basic fact that a genocide is happening here either isn't paying attention or isn't engaging in good faith. There's plenty of other proof of that.
Well... On the one hand, it's not really being proven here specifically; this just shows the distribution of killings, not the extent of it. Very probably proof of war crimes (indiscriminate killing of civilians), but not necessarily of genocide specifically.
On the other hand, anyone still denying the basic fact that a genocide is happening here either isn't paying attention or isn't engaging in good faith. There's plenty of other proof of that.
@australopithecus my deepest apologies, you are right. Ofcourse we've just shown indiscriminate killing of Gazans by the tens of thousands. In no way does that prove genocide specifically. Thank you for bringing focus to this very important matter.
Gerard Cunningham ✒️
Hey Gus@babadookspinoza fucking combatant infants and toddlers are the worst - israel
Hot Dog Water, roilingExcept Israel and 77-million+ abortion-triggered Americans are giggling like toddlers at the murdered infants so they can all have more umbrella space on the beach until God comes on them. For them. Whatever. I don't even think any of them fucking know anymore.
This is so sick.
Fuck all of your gods to dust.
sortius@babadookspinoza remember, Gaza Health Ministry ONLY lists confirmed dead that they can name
KevinOnEarth@babadookspinoza
Yet that is not even nearly close to the punishment they all deserve.
Yet that is not even nearly close to the punishment they all deserve.
Gary Whittaker@babadookspinoza
For anyone responsible for this with even a shred of empathy I hope they are haunted in their waking and sleeping hours for the rest of their lives.
For anyone responsible for this with even a shred of empathy I hope they are haunted in their waking and sleeping hours for the rest of their lives.
@babadookspinoza Hopefully, not for very long.
DonCC@babadookspinoza
murdering zionist zealots... smfh
murdering zionist zealots... smfh
Nullstring 🏴☠️@babadookspinoza if theyre made to. inshallah.
AnnieBuddyThose who support this are not human.
WesDym@AnnieBuddy Sadly, they are. As human as you or me. ALL of us have a capacity for evil, and dehumanizing those who commit evil is how we deny that awful truth -- and what makes it easier for us to commit evil ourselves. Indeed, you're reflecting the likely thought process of these very perpetrators.
If you dehumanize others, then you're doing exactly what these butchers are doing. You must be better than that, if you want the world to be better.
@wesdym sorry, I have to disagree. People are dying and they don’t care. In some cases they are celebrating the deaths. You can treat them however you like and you can think you are superior somehow for doing so, but I can’t treat those who create misery and destruction as anything but a threat to all those I care about.
@AnnieBuddy Well, congratulations, then. You're no better than the people you hate.
You have failed the most basic test of humanity.
Goodbye.
I find it truly bizarre that someone who wants the fascists to be treated as humans and accuses me of being as bad as a fascist for actually caring about the people they are killing and traumatizing would then block me for disagreeing.
Talk about intolerance, being judgemental and hooked on some really twisted rationalizing. I think they would be better off going back to Twitter.
Still annoyed about this asshole. If you’re going to accuse people of being the same as a fascist who murders people, then at least have the courage to debate it. If not,
How dare you equate what I said with that?
I don’t put up with ignorant bullies. Show some courage you weak little sheep.
JBrown, Esq@babadookspinoza there are 300,000++ Palestinians killed in only this CURRENT nakba according to 1000s of medical professionals, journalists, human rights groups, and the UN's own special investigators, doctors without borders, etc etc, have all confirmed the count is easily half a million civilians.
And yet, every new fucking story about this you hear, you hear that "30,000 or 50,000 are killed", similar to how eugenicists continue to lower the excess death count from COVID.
ShadSterling@babadookspinoza I grew up hearing the constant refrain of “never again”. All of human civilization, it seemed, had committed to never again allowing the systematic extermination of any particular people.
And now I look on, helpless, as people who call themselves “leaders” not only do it again, but get cheered on by unfathomably many of the same people who solemnly swore “never again”.
Juɦo̞ Mæn̪t̪yˈs̠ɑ̝lo̞@ShadSterling @babadookspinoza
After WW2 there was a commited strive to find out what made Nazi-Germany so evil. They read through the diplomatic cables of the regime, and.. didn't find anything especially noteworthy (compared to other western regimes).
When I was younger I often wondered how the local leftists called right-wing rhetoric and/or implementations so often "fascist". It was even somewhat of a joke: they saw fascists everywhere lol lol lol.
After I studied history (etc) the...½
@ShadSterling @babadookspinoza
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...the answer became clear. It's not that there wasn't anything noteworthy in the cables, and it wasn't that the implementations later weren't fascist.
It's just that fascism is in a very real sense intensification of right-wing mindset¹, and thus it's hard to...
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¹ in western societies there's this ongoing battle between democracy (public interest) and capitalism (private interest), and which of these two is closer to the interest of the state.
@ShadSterling @babadookspinoza
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..it is hard to draw a line at what point the private interest goes too far. For example: the presently slave-produced cocoa, slave-built olympic arenas, wars for oil, destruction of environment/native culture, etc.
Thus stuff like Gazan genocide can be seen in context of "overreach" when going perfectly acceptable stuff like securing more land by destroying individual lives and centuries old communities.
@iju @babadookspinoza Israel’s land grabs in the West Bank are nowhere near acceptable, and it is a failure of the rules-based international order that we allow them to exert any authority outside of their internationally recognized borders.
Maybe if we were stricter about shutting down the lower levels of bullying we would be less susceptible to the horrific escalations
@ShadSterling @babadookspinoza
You don't think it's right. I don't think it's right either. There's a lot of people who disagree, and do so publicly and while holding an elected office.
@babadookspinoza
Sadly, that info is a year old and many seem very ok with the shame. I'd like to see more running to be fair...
Sadly, that info is a year old and many seem very ok with the shame. I'd like to see more running to be fair...
disorderlyf@babadookspinoza In a few years, they'll all have totally always been against it the whole time, since at least 8 October 2023
Linda Rose Smit@babadookspinoza we have read the names at a weeks long wake 24/7. Tha names with age 0 were the hardest.
nihilistic_capybara@babadookspinoza what was the definition of genocide again?
Ken M Sweeney@babadookspinoza we need to start taking names too.