Mastodawn

No, you cannot walk 10,000 steps daily, get 8 hours of sleep, cook every night, clean every day, take care of a family, make time for your own hobbies, and still be productive at work every day. This is not just propaganda, it is nonsense. Free yourself from it.

@yayaver @alex „Do X, every day, it only takes 10 minutes“.
Sure, but alongside the other 9 things that „only take 10 minutes“ I just don’t have time for this!

Alex Schroeder Apr 21

@aymm @yayaver "8 hours of rest, and 8 hours of leisure, 8 hours of cooking, eating, washing, cleaning up, childcare, other chores and whatnot!"

@alex @aymm @yayaver And 8 hours of work.

meganecko Apr 21

@aymm @yayaver Once I made a detailed schedule of all the things I thought I should do every day and even scheduling every waking minute wasn’t enough. It made me want to give up on doing any of them.

@meganecko @aymm @yayaver Literally why I wing it. Still not ideal

@hellomiakoda @meganecko @aymm @yayaver Ideal / Perfect is not possible. You're doing your best.

MinmiTheDino Apr 21

@aymm @yayaver @alex

Yea the 1.5 hours between my kids bedtime and my bedtime somehow must fit 30 minutes of cleaning, 30 minutes of exercise, 30 minutes reconnecting with my spouse, 30 minutes of reading, 10 minutes of journaling, 10 minutes of meditation, 20 minutes of self care, 30 minutes of a hobby, 20 minutes of planning and probably 30 minutes of whatever the current fad is to tell people to do in order to make them feel insufficient in yet another way. It’s so easy!

@minmi @aymm @yayaver @alex You just need to invent a time machine, and all your problems will be solved.

MinmiTheDino Apr 22

Does seem like the simplest solution

@aymm @yayaver @alex

@aymm @[email protected] @alex Plus the 6 minutes before to get set up, the 7 minutes after to tidy up, the half hour or more before where you can’t do anything useful because you’d have to stop…..

João Santos Apr 21

@yayaver I do, and I add making lunch on top most days, while working 9 hour days from Monday to Thursday. 10k steps is only hard to achieve if you put yourself into the situation where you only walk for exercise.

@jmcs good for you. Please don't imply that can work for everyone though. @yayaver

João Santos Apr 22

@switch I didn't say everyone could, I was just commenting on the assertion that no one could.

Rosy Maths Apr 21

@yayaver @ruben This reminds me of desperately trying to implement a feeding and sleeping schedule for my newborn. Eventually, deeply frustrated at my repeated failures, I graphed the recommended schedules against each other. Turns out it was mathematically impossible to follow both.schedules simultaneously.

I was deeply relieved. It wasn't my failure.

Rosy Maths Apr 22

@yayaver @ruben My kids grew up fairly removed from their cultural social norms because of the demands of their brain wiring. I had to learn so much! But I love learning about brains. Utterly, infinitely fascinating.

@RosyMaths @[email protected] Thanks for sharing this. Regarding Brains: Only instrument that works and analyses itself...

Rosy Maths Apr 24

@yayaver @ruben Oh that's a cool thought!

Leo Schuldiner🤘🏼Apr 21

@yayaver I am so agree with this. For me, that's the extension of the "american dream".. for real, a social cancer that makes people sick and wanna die.

MaddieM4 Apr 21

@yayaver being able to do all that every day "for awhile" does not mean you've found some sustainable groove, btw. That's the other hazard. "I can do it, I'm doing it right now!" Ma'am you are warming your hands on your own house burning down and telling me "that should keep us warm all winter!" In like, November. It don't work like that.

Dan Hatton Apr 21

You're right. Unfortunately, recognising the impossibility of achieving all of those things doesn't stop many (perhaps all) of them being genuinely important to the maintenance of good physical and mental health. Solutions welcome.

Furao Sentu Apr 21

@yayaver well, yeah, obviously, but everyone wants me to do just all of those things. I have a hard time prioritizing one over the others. I heard the 10k steps are not as important as it's been advertized, but I suspect Netflix being behind that smear campaign. They already stated that their biggest competitor is 'sleep', their second biggest might just be 'going for a stroll', y'know!

@_ @yayaver 10k steps was just from a marketing campaign by a Japanese company for a pedometer called the Manpo-Kei.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-42864061

Michael Mosley: 'Forget walking 10,000 steps a day'

Experts say there is a better way to get fit than counting your steps.

BBC News

Furao Sentu Apr 21

@HollieK72 @yayaver THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE!one!!

Just kidding, it's just… nowadays it’s unclear what to trust, anymore. The 10k steps being true or not is actually inconsequential. Walking is good overall, but stick to the science, in general. Humans are not made for a sedentary lifestyle, as several studies have shown … (OR TRIED TO SHOW‽‽‽ k that's enough)

Corinna Baldauf (she/her)Apr 21

@_ @yayaver The latest science says that 6000 steps/day is enough. After that the benefits flatten out. For me 6000 steps = 1 hour of walking which is much more doable for me than 10k steps.

Sorry, can't find my scource for this (and it would likely be in German 🤭 )

PS: The 10k steps did not originate from science but from a Japanese company that sold a step tracker back in the... 70s(?)

Claudius Link Apr 24

@CorinnaBaldauf @_ @yayaver

@joannaholman mentioned a source for that

https://aus.social/@joannaholman/116456669784530028

Joanna Holman (@[email protected])

Fun fact about the 10,000 steps a day bit of this: a lot of people seem to think that’s what science says they should be aiming for. It’s not. That number came from a Japanese fitness tracker manufacturer who thought it sounded good in their ad copy. Actual research suggests the benefits of extra steps tappers off for most people much lower than that https://stories.uq.edu.au/contact-magazine/uq-mythbusters-step-count/index.html

Aus.Social

Furao Sentu Apr 24

@CorinnaBaldauf @yayaver there are 3600 seconds in an hour. 6000 steps in one hour is quite sporty. That's not just walking about, that's the actual sport «walking» for an entire hour. Even with jogging, you don’t get those 6k steps inside that one hour.

Corinna Baldauf (she/her)Apr 24

@_ @yayaver Hm, I blindly trust my iPhone step counter. I don't have any other tracker.

But AFAIK I take 10mins to walk a kilometer. I just converted this to "number of steps" on a random site on the internet and it says with my height and avg walking speed: 1km = 1400 steps.

That would make it even more than 6k steps in an hour.

Corinna Baldauf (she/her)Apr 24

@_ @yayaver Just walked around and stopped my time. In 15 seconds I walked 25 steps which ... works out to EXACTLY 6000 steps in an hour 😂

Now it sounds like I fabricated it but I swear a stop watch was involved!

Furao Sentu Apr 24

@CorinnaBaldauf @yayaver I thought it was much, but I am not the one with the empirical data, now. 10000 steps an hour it is, then. ✅

Corinna Baldauf (she/her)Apr 27

@_ @yayaver 6000!!! (Not 10. 10 would be A LOT)

Furao Sentu Apr 27

@CorinnaBaldauf @yayaver *some handwaving* potato potato

Noodlemaz Apr 21

@_ @yayaver yeah it's trash. Obviously walking is good but if you get 4k then 2k then 12 not 10+ every day it's fine.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwygy378nn1o

10,000 steps myth - do we really need to stick to recommended daily doses?

As a study casts doubt on the daily steps maxim, we take a look at some other health benchmarks we’re often told to strive for.

BBC News

Klaus Frank Apr 21

@yayaver Well if you try to do all of this the 10,000 steps are probably the only thing you do not have to actively worry about meeting...

Я⊛ḶḶ model ‽‽‽Apr 21

one of the biggest lies we have told ourselves is that we have to live in a seperate residences and do everything by ourselves. we should be in community housing with everyone sharing the responsibilities, joys, and burdens of life.

it's bizarre to me that we don't instinctively prefer this.

ericjames* 🐺‼️ (they/it)Apr 22

@saltywizard i mean i'd personally prefer to live on my own but otherwise i agree

@yayaver take step climbing as a job, cleaning as a hobby and you can make it happen !

@yayaver i do all that, but only because i'm unemployed.

Melancholic Mediocrity

@yayaver I can see this thread is already becoming a good source of condescending ableists to block. "Oh, I do all that just fine!" Did you want a medal? Go fuck yourself.

@LibertyForward1 True words..

Jenny Fx Apr 21

@yayaver also, sitting and staring into space is doing something.

@yayaver why do I feel personally targeted here?

Torn in too many directions.

@yayaver
7,000 steps is plenty for most people, but it didn't look like a guy walking when displayed in Japanese konji

@yayaver Sleep is optional...

Kinene⭐🐻Apr 21

@yayaver What is this "clean" (verb) to which you refer? Cleaning happens when the dirt or disorder annoys me. Until then, I take off my glasses and ignore it.

@c_merriweather it's just arranging home....too much clutter happens

@yayaver and be present for your friends, and preserve yourself, and…

AntGuyOnMaui 🏳️‍🌈🐜🐜♾Apr 21

I already felt this way as a teenager. When I was In high school (long, long before "steps" were invented) I wrote an essay for English class dreaming of establishing a 28 hour day so that I would have time to read all the books I wanted, in addition to eating, sleeping, chores and classes. But I bemoaned that if the day were to be magically stretched longer "my teachers would just give us even more homework to do."

WWSchoof 📯Apr 21

@yayaver don‘t forget to Drink 2L a day

Lily Star Apr 21

@yayaver Thats two peoples worth of things, at a minimum.

Beanface42 Apr 21

@yayaver

I firmly believe that, put simply, some people have more energy and stamina (physically but also mentally) than others constantly, together with a high sense of organisation; this is not propaganda but fact. That does not mean they are models to follow, but they exist.

They may have mastered some time bending techniques, however. At least, it's what it seems when you are speaking with them.

@beanface42 @yayaver They just fail to mention that they have a cleaner and a nanny.

Jered Floyd Apr 21

@yayaver @fraterrisus Across several parents this is possible… but definitely not one.

Alfred M. Szmidt Apr 21

@yayaver Walking 10k everyday should be considered normal. It is not much.
But …

Why do you cook every night? Clean every day? Meal prep, making lunch boxes., cleaning should be considered automatic and not something you spend time on. Do you consider brushing your teeth or showering a chore?

Taking care of your loved ones, why is that an issue? It is the most wonderful time one can spend.

Work hours, ain’t fun,, but that is when you recharge, why be productive for a black hole.

@amszmidt @yayaver

I consider brushing my teeth a chore. I mean I'm not doing it because it's fun.

That’s a moray Apr 22

@amszmidt @yayaver I would love to hear how you prepare food without using any time. Or did you mean thyme? I can do lots of meal prep without thyme, true, but the clock doesn't magically stop when I take out a cutting board.

Alfred M. Szmidt Apr 22

@Bumblefish Twisty words aren’t we? “Cook everyday”

It takes two hours to prep a whole week of food for a family of four, that includes lunch and dinner and even breakfast and snacks. And that includes means different meals each day.

Alfred M. Szmidt Apr 22

@Bumblefish @yayaver If you can take an hour lunch each day, you have time for all of the above. The rest is excuses,

That’s a moray Apr 22

@amszmidt @yayaver The definition of fascism is the idea that everyone should be the same. Fuck you with your six legs and family of four. As if there are ever just four pod people.