The Otter Queen
Andrea Junker 
If you hate Pope Leo because he is too “liberal”, I have some very bad news for you about Jesus.
Lenora
Jim Sullivan@Strandjunker You mean Jesus doesn't hate Pope Leo for being too liberal?
Doodles@Strandjunker
If you believe any of this christian bullshit, I have news for you...🤣
If you believe any of this christian bullshit, I have news for you...🤣
⁂ Jnk ∞ 📎@IDoodle @Strandjunker believing in a religion is not a requisite to comment on their myths. We can talk about Jesus as depicted in the bible, without believing in him, and respecting other people's beliefs all at once.
Misuse Case@IDoodle @Strandjunker This Jew says it’s fine for you to be an atheist but you don’t have to be such an asshole about it.
Peach Fae@Strandjunker I always am amazed that any ‘CHRISTIAN’ would be stupid enough to second guess their savior. Disciples? Of course! Clergy? Of course! But Jesus himself? Gotta wonder at the ego…
Susi
hnapelThere's lyrics from no less than two songs that come to mind:
Tim Rice: "Why you let the things you did get so out of hand. You'd have managed better if you'd had it planned. Now why'd you choose such a backward time and such a strange land?"
John Lennon : "The way things are going, They’re gonna crucify me."
Just to say, if J6 had come here and now, they would *certainly* have crucified him.
Ken Milmore@hnapel @Strandjunker Webber lyrics were Tim Rice actually.
Thanks, this means I have so far lambasted the wrong person for writing about Maria Magdalene that she 'had so many men before, in very many ways' (clearly implying she was a slut), but Webber must have condoned it, absolving me!
Fazal Majid@Strandjunker was it that tossing money-changers in the Temple on their ears that gave it away?
Von Xylofon@Strandjunker I would hazard a guess a large portion of self-described Christians don't actually believe in Jesus.
ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESoh they believe in *a* jesus
their jesus carries an AR-15, worships plutocracy, and hates trans people and immigrants
of course, that has nothing to do with the actual Jesus
so they are fake Christians, hewing to bigotry and ignorance and hate
a cult of violent morons
Ken S@benroyce @vonxylofon @Strandjunker a lot of people can ‘believe’ if they delusionally believe it supports their beliefs or cause.
Which is why I love reading Dante’s Inferno, as an agnostic.
While those ‘Christians’ end up in the deepest level of ‘Hell’ (if it exists), I’ll end up in Purgatory chatting with the likes of Plato, Socrates, etc. 😂
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George Liquor, American@benroyce @vonxylofon @Strandjunker "Fake Christians" is simply not accurate. Exactly the No True Scotsman fallacy.
@liquor_american @vonxylofon @Strandjunker
no
misapplication of the No True Scotsman fallacy
there is no appeal to purity and generalization in my statement
i am simply saying here you have this group that defiles what Jesus teaches. and i am excluding them from a valid definition of Christianity for doing that. it's a classification, not purity, not generalization
no True Scotsman would be if i said this is the only way you can be a Christian, and exclude them on that basis. not what i did
@liquor_american @benroyce @Strandjunker No true Scotsman applies an arbitrary, unrelated criterion.
I would say believing and (trying to) adhere to the core tenets of the teachings of God himself as described in the holy book seems pertinent and relevant to the classification.
These people go to the same churches and say the same things, but have a belief system so different from what the Bible says that I would say it warrants calling it a different religion altogether.
kit@benroyce
Oh yes, a Jesus. The Jesus that speaks to them in their hearts, and guides them as they interpret His words.
I've generally not liked that Jesus.
Ω 🌍 Gus Posey@benroyce I call him Casey God.
ᗪavid JohnWest said it best. They took the street out of Jesus. The relatable part. Love and peace.
JeremyJupiterJones 
The New Testament contains many references to Jesus warning of false prophets. The concept of Zionism did not yet exist and was going to take about another 2,000 years to threaten humanity.
@jeremy_pm @Strandjunker LOL way to take a thing about inter-Christian disagreement and turn it into plausibly deniable antisemitism, especially since Zionism has existed in some form for CENTURIES
Indeed Zionism originated during the reformation by early Protestant Europeans as an anti Jewish ideology, so in that regard you’re correct about Zionism’s origins being antisemitic.
The political Zionist ideology of today is very different from its origins but I am unsure how a criticism of an ideology that judges people by their political beliefs can be interpreted as being anti Jewish or for that matter anti those who speak semitic languages which includes most indigenous inhabitants of West Asia and North Africa rather than Eastern Europeans.
@jeremy_pm @Strandjunker >> Indeed Zionism originated during the reformation by early Protestant Europeans as an anti Jewish ideology, so in that regard you’re correct about Zionism’s origins being antisemitic
No it didn’t. This isn’t even the correct line of bull about Zionism originating with antisemitic Europeans - the line of bull is “it originated in Britain in the 19th century” (this is also wrong).
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@jeremy_pm @Strandjunker The through-line is old antisemitic tropes about Jews not legitimately belonging anywhere, Zionism being a conspiracy, and Jews not having agency.
The actual truth is that 19th-century Jewish Zionists were willing to work with European antisemites to achieve their goals. Even the mainstream Israeli history curriculum is honest about this devil’s bargain! But you have to make shit up for some reason.
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@jeremy_pm @Strandjunker I know you can’t talk seriously about Zionism because if you could you would have mentioned Jewish anti-Zionism right off the bat - it was pretty common in the 18th and 19th centuries!
Or you could at least talk about how the real driver behind Israeli nationalism, apartheid, warmongering, and American support for all those things is…Evangelical Christianity!
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Please then explain why if there is 20 so called Christian Zionists to every Jewish Zionist how opposing Zionism is anti Jewish?
The Iranian Jews are particularly anti-Zionist and refused to be forced to leave Iran and move to Israel post its creation in 1948. Does that explain the motive behind Israel bombing a synagogue in Teheran a few days ago.
Regardless of what you believe the reality is Zionism is a very dangerous and violent ideology. You can accuse me of antisemitism as much as you like, it doesn’t change the fact that Eastern European Jews are not genetically or historically connected to West Asia.
@jeremy_pm @Strandjunker >> Please then explain why if there is 20 so called Christian Zionists to every Jewish Zionist how opposing Zionism is anti Jewish?
You’re the one who brought it up in response to a post on a completely unrelated topic and use it in a way that’s mostly indistinguishable from a slur for “Jew,” so I don’t think I’m the one who needs to explain myself here.
bituur esztreym
AARS@Strandjunker 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿!
Moya@Strandjunker
I don't hate the Pope because he's supposedly 'liberal'.
I can't stand him because his is the organisation that keeps untold wealth behind locked doors, shuffles paedophile clergy from place to place instead of excommunicating them, & has been responsible for just as much violence on earth as Trump and Hitleryahu.
It's always the same shit, just with a different Pope.
All the right words, none of the action to back it up!
Hugs4friends ♾🇺🇦 🇵🇸😷@Strandjunker Socialist, hippy Jesus?
K_L_Cooper@Strandjunker
PULEEZE, Bring it on❗️🙏🏼
The bible-thumping flock needs a YUGE wake-up in the gut❗️❗️❗️🥊🥊
PULEEZE, Bring it on❗️🙏🏼
The bible-thumping flock needs a YUGE wake-up in the gut❗️❗️❗️🥊🥊
