oh they believe in *a* jesus
their jesus carries an AR-15, worships plutocracy, and hates trans people and immigrants
of course, that has nothing to do with the actual Jesus
so they are fake Christians, hewing to bigotry and ignorance and hate
a cult of violent morons
@benroyce @vonxylofon @Strandjunker a lot of people can ‘believe’ if they delusionally believe it supports their beliefs or cause.
Which is why I love reading Dante’s Inferno, as an agnostic.
While those ‘Christians’ end up in the deepest level of ‘Hell’ (if it exists), I’ll end up in Purgatory chatting with the likes of Plato, Socrates, etc. 😂
@liquor_american @vonxylofon @Strandjunker
no
misapplication of the No True Scotsman fallacy
there is no appeal to purity and generalization in my statement
i am simply saying here you have this group that defiles what Jesus teaches. and i am excluding them from a valid definition of Christianity for doing that. it's a classification, not purity, not generalization
no True Scotsman would be if i said this is the only way you can be a Christian, and exclude them on that basis. not what i did
@liquor_american @benroyce @Strandjunker No true Scotsman applies an arbitrary, unrelated criterion.
I would say believing and (trying to) adhere to the core tenets of the teachings of God himself as described in the holy book seems pertinent and relevant to the classification.
These people go to the same churches and say the same things, but have a belief system so different from what the Bible says that I would say it warrants calling it a different religion altogether.
@benroyce
Oh yes, a Jesus. The Jesus that speaks to them in their hearts, and guides them as they interpret His words.
I've generally not liked that Jesus.
@fazalmajid @vonxylofon @Strandjunker
Exactly