Podcast Projets libres1d ago

New podcast episode: Put some privacy in your smartphone! 📣 🎧

How can you use an Android smartphone while protecting your privacy? Who should you turn to for more privacy-friendly Android alternatives?
Can you install Linux on your phone?

With @fla from @Framasoft , we answer these questions!

👉 https://www.projets-libres.org/en/podcast/smartphone-put-privacy-in-your-smartphone/

#podcast #opensource #privacy #eos #iodeOS #calyxos #postmarketos #fairphone #commown #murena #ubuntutouch #grapheneos

Show threadGrapheneOS1d ago
@projetslibres_podcast @Framasoft The claims made about GrapheneOS in this interview are extremely inaccurate. It heavily misrepresents the purpose of GrapheneOS and what we've worked on for years. The claim GrapheneOS is a security project rather than a privacy project is misinformation. Contacts are specifically brought up and yet our Contact Scopes feature is ignored. @fla knows GrapheneOS is a privacy project. He replied to a thread with our response to this misinformation only 4 days ago...
Show threadTruhe1d ago

@GrapheneOS And you really think that a thread on a niche microblogging platform helps promoting your product and vision? Don't you have a homepage to put your beef on which you could link instead of filling the timeline of your followers?

I'm interested in GrapheneOS, not whatever beef you have with others.

Show threadTruhe1d ago

@GrapheneOS

It's hard enough for every alternative OS to find people to use it. It's even harder when those alternatives are fighting against each other. Also I don't care who started it and who's right. This is not a childrens sandbox and you are not five years old. Get your shit together, make a statement on your website, post that statement and move on.

Show threadGrapheneOS1d ago
@truhe We're providing accurate information about GrapheneOS and how it compares to another operating system. The reason we're doing that is because they've spent years misleading people about GrapheneOS and are continuing to do it. If they stop misleading people about GrapheneOS including in these kinds of interviews, then we won't need to post responses addressing it. GrapheneOS has been massively harmed by concerted efforts to mislead people about the purpose, features and approach we have.
Show threadGrapheneOS1d ago
@truhe /e/ and Murena have done a huge amount of harm to us by widely propagating their false claims about GrapheneOS privacy, usability and app compatibility. They've misled many people into believing it isn't a privacy project, isn't usable, isn't compatible with most apps and much more. GrapheneOS is a privacy project providing a much higher level of privacy than they do along with great usability and far broader app compatibility. We're addressing it because it has greatly harmed us.
Show threadGrapheneOS1d ago
@truhe The thread we posted is certainly about GrapheneOS. It provides very useful information about why we approach things in the way we do with features like Contact Scopes rather than DNS filtering. We post these threads to directly address content misleading people about GrapheneOS. A group attacking us is being provided with a platform to make inaccurate claims about GrapheneOS without it being challenged and without us having an opportunity to directly respond, so we're responding here.
Show threadGrapheneOS1d ago

@truhe GrapheneOS exists to protect the privacy of our users. That includes protecting people from sophisticated attacks on their privacy by corporations and states. GrapheneOS doesn't exist to simply provide an alternative to mainstream options. We aren't inherently on the side of other projects providing alternatives.

The anti-privacy talking points from Gaël Duval in the video at https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116353973732143171 aren't an isolated incident but rather /e/ and Murena have been saying it for years.

Show threadGrapheneOS1d ago
@truhe /e/ and Murena have repeatedly claimed GrapheneOS is only useful to criminals and spies. During the recent state-sponsored smearing of the GrapheneOS project in the French media, Gaël Duval assisted with pushing their false narrative that GrapheneOS is only useful to criminals. These groups aren't on the same side as us. Their primary goal is earning as much money as they can with privacy as a way to brand and market devices. They're undermining the privacy movement and aren't allies.
Show threadTruhe

@GrapheneOS You now wrote five mentions to me explaining the beef you have and repeating the arguments, after I said, that using threads on a niche microblogging platform is not the best way, and neither is talking about everything the others do wrong (to you).

I followed your account to get news on Graphene OS and what I'm getting is some war between forum trolls. I get your point, I get why your doing it, but seeing this from an outside perspective where I'm just interested in getting news

Apr 10 at 3:12pmWeb
Show threadTruhe1d ago
@GrapheneOS about my next smartphone OS, this feels out of place and not helpful.
Show threadAlien software, human hardware1d ago
@truhe is it posssible that you are confusing a rss feed of news from a website with a social media platform where people talk to each other? @GrapheneOS
Show threadTruhe1d ago
@mavu No.
Show threadGrapheneOS1d ago
@truhe If we hadn't posted about it, you wouldn't be aware of /e/ and Murena holding the views they do on people wanting to protect themselves from privacy and security vulnerabilities. There are clearly benefits to us spreading the word about it. Many people have misled into believing GrapheneOS is not a privacy project by these groups and we're addressing it directly. We can also post more content about our privacy features, and we are mentioning those as part of these posts too.
Show threadchfkch  1d ago

@GrapheneOS
I think the point was not to post thr information, but rather where/how.
It was suggested to post the full explanation on the website/blog and link it with a short introduction on the fediverse.

A suggestion which i also agree with.
@truhe