RE: https://social.coop/@scottjenson/116352522288234148

The views expressed by Scott in this thread do not reflect the opinions of the Mastodon core team or organisation. We're addressing this internally. I'm sorry everyone

@haubles can you sum it up? The thread is now so long i don't know what you are talking about

@lutindiscret

Scott found it problematic that some people on Mastodon pour hate in people's mentions instead of using block/mute.

The ones who want to pour hate didn't like that.

@haubles

@troed @lutindiscret @haubles i particularly enjoyed the take about the entirety of fedi being a #monoculture because of low/no engagement with a specific type of post (on which instance? who knows) compared to the bastion of big tent diversity that are threads and bluesky...

@patrick_h_lauke

Lots of folks tried to point out why this didn’t actually make sense, I know I did, it seemed he got himself into a very reactive place emotionally and wasn’t able to understand other perspectives that were being shared.

@troed @lutindiscret @haubles

@stepheneb tbf he became the receiver of exactly the problem he brought up. Pure hatred, voiced out. I'd even claim @Gargron participated with the "puppy killing".

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@troed

I don’t think that was the initial problem he “thought” he was bringing up. But it sure seemed to become one for him.

And then seemed to be incapable of not digging a deeper and deeper hole.

That’s the part that makes me think he got lost in an emotional whirlpool which sometimes seems to make people think digging in deeper is going to somehow get them to a light at the end of a tunnel.

@Gargron @lutindiscret @haubles

@stepheneb

He indeed intended for the discussion to be around people who go spew hate at others instead of just blocking/muting what they don't like - it's not the first post along those lines.

The AI-haters on Mastodon just couldn't stand that _that_ was the example given - and so they proved Scott's point beyond a shadow of a doubt.

https://social.coop/@scottjenson/116332048950243664

@Gargron @lutindiscret @haubles

@troed @stepheneb @lutindiscret
The majority of the hate came from people saying I wanted more AI in Mastodon, or I was upset AI wasn't better treated (or whatever) which was exactly NOT what I wanted. I was using AI as an example of intolerance and the discussion became all about AI. (or that "tolerance lets in the nazis")

I'll totally own that my initial post was too vague and made too broad of a point. I'm not going to pretend I was perfect. But if someone started saying you wanted to let nazi's into mastodon, wouldn't you feel compelled to say "uh, no?"

@scottjenson @troed @stepheneb @lutindiscret
Perhaps you used a very, very bad example since genAI is a highly political issue that ppl feel very strongly about.

@jeromio

That's a "she was wearing a short skirt" argument.

@scottjenson @stepheneb @lutindiscret

@troed @jeromio @scottjenson since when are short skirts gaslighting people, convincing teens to commit suicide, operating CSAM vending machines, slurping up the grid so regular people go without access to clean energy, polluting all repositories of human knowledge with misinformation, running fascist propaganda campaigns, and fabricating evidence to imprison and deport people? I'll give you one, their production does exploit cheap labor overseas. But a better comparison would be fur and paint.

@raphaelmorgan

"she was wearing a short skirt"-argument is a well known construction where blame is laid on the victim for what the perpetrator did. In this context, Scott getting attacked because of what Jeremy considered to be having used "the wrong" example.

@jeromio @scottjenson

@[email protected] @raphaelmorgan @jeromio @[email protected] so Scott is a victim now...🤣🤣🤣🤣

I am starting to think you spelt your name wrong, are you sure your name isn't spelt "Choad"?