Is Pittsburgh midwest
Yes
22.2%
No
77.8%
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@dev whoever is answering yes to this lives on a much smaller planet than I do
@ricci @dev that was my first reaction, but then someone pointed out to me that Pittsburgh is only about 30 miles from the border with Ohio which is clearly in the midwest so now I am confused

@ricci @dev it is also in the Ohio Valley which means I have to link this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_Valley-style_pizza

Ohio Valley-style pizza - Wikipedia

@dan @ricci @dev Do not understand. How can uncooked pepperoni cup itself?
@dan @ricci @dev However, its method of preparation is polarizing,[14] and it has been negatively compared to Lunchables.
@dan @ricci @dev “its method of preparation is polarizing,, and it has been negatively compared to Lunchables”
@dan @ricci @dev dammit dan you've posted this before and I've excised it from my memory and now you post it again
Altoona-style pizza - Wikipedia

@infinimatt @regehr @ricci @dev what a history, from the peak Midwest passive-aggressive “a unique pizza” to the less passive but more aggressive destruction by fire
@dan @regehr @ricci @dev choosing to believe the cause of the hotel fire was trying to actually melt the processed cheese squares
@infinimatt @regehr @dan @ricci @dev I love how Velveeta is called cheese.
@gwozniak @regehr @dan @ricci @dev focus groups gave “cheese product” higher marks than “I can’t believe it’s not petroleum”

@ricci @dev when my dad was born (not too far away on the Ohio side), this was the only pizza available in Ohio, and it had just been introduced.

This might explain why my grandmother never ordered a pizza delivery in her life.

@ricci @dev (she also never used an ATM or a computer, and only reluctantly got a touchtone phone a few years before she died)
@dan @ricci @dev like they just no shit don't bake the toppings? for real? it's hard to see how this can be something people would eat
@dan @ricci @dev also the second part of "covered with a savory or sweet tomato sauce" is causing problems for me
@dan @ricci @dev "the food of your people is worse than lunchables" is harsh AF
@regehr @dan @ricci @dev This is Tanenbaum-esque.
@regehr @ricci @dev in the 1940s it was called "the poor man's cheesecake" which also raises a number of concerns
@dan @regehr @ricci @dev For one thing, the universe of "rich man's cheesecake" seems unbounded without any parameters.
@dan @ricci @dev it's just not right
@regehr @dan @ricci @dev Dogs and cats, living together. Mass hysteria.
@regehr @dan @ricci @dev tomato sauce means something that can substitute for ketchup in NZ. It also means tomato sauce. I don't really get it. https://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/1apk31w/what_is_the_difference_between_tomato_sauce_and/
@regehr @ricci @dev I have never actually tried it myself! but yes, not even the cheese is cooked
@dan @ricci @dev I posted the wikipedia link to a local group and a friend has totally been to "Steubenville" -- which sounds made up AF but I guess exists -- and has eaten this food
@dan @ricci @dev she said "It's legit not great, but it's a legend there"
@regehr @dan @ricci @dev ??? i'm concerned
@atsuzaki @dan @ricci @dev whole thing is fucking concerning for real, I was only dreading nuclear war tonight before this
@regehr @dan @ricci @dev perhaps it is the civilization of ohio valley that should no longer exist
@regehr @dan @ricci @dev omfg i sent this to my partner and he was like oh i always top my pizza at home with cold cheese its good. i think i'm calling off the marriage
@atsuzaki @dan @ricci @dev hahahaha omg you think you know someone!!!!!
@regehr @atsuzaki @ricci @dev this must be why the Catholic Church mandates premarital counseling, right?

@regehr @atsuzaki @ricci @dev I can't be sure because my only catholic relative was my grandma (same one) who was kicked out for marrying a non-catholic

Subsequently, when she was forced to move to a new town in Ohio at least once per year, she made it a point to go to entirely different churches so she could rank the denominations. On the quality of their baked goods.

@dan @ricci @dev "Steubenville" is near "Follansbee", "Weems", "Alikanna", "Pottery Addition", and "Weirton". this is like reading the map from a poorly done fantasy novel
@regehr @dan @ricci @dev Steubenville is known for pottery. (As is that whole corner of Ohio — apparently there's good clay there?) Weirton is known for steelmaking (one guess as to the name of the company's founder).
@regehr @ricci @dev yes, my dad’s family lived in Steubenville at one point (and tbh pretty much every other town in Ohio because this was the era when your employer could just reassign you to another random place and you’d pack up and move your entire family)
@dan @ricci @dev this brings to mind a memory that hasn’t surfaced in decades: my mom having a slight callus on the finger that she always dialed with (prior to touch tone phones.)
@dan @ricci @dev I originally came to wonder at the 1/3 of folks who found Pennsylvania to be Midwestern, and now here I see a clear argument for the entire Ohio Valley to be cast out.
@purp @dan @ricci @dev Have you never been to the Western side of the Allegheny Mountains? I went to Carnegie-Mellon University. PGH is absolutely a Mid-Western city. It might be the most eastern of them, but it is absolutely "Midwest".

@gcvsa @dan @ricci @dev I'll confess that I haven't, and I'm the poorer for it (as several CMU friends will happily remind me =).

Living in Missouri, Minnesota, Arkansas, and Kansas informed my biases which strongly lead me to feel that "Mountains" and "Midwest" don't properly go in the same sentence. Utterly irrational, I'm sure.

Super curious to hear more. How does it feel Midwestern?

@purp I mean, don't get me wrong, I can totally see how people from, say, Duluth or Wichita or Rapid City might have a very different conception of what "Midwest" means, but I'm originally from NYC and went to university at CMU. I've also lived for many years in Philadelphia. There is a fundamental distinction btw Philly and Pittsburgh, because of the fact that PGH is on the other side of the mountains. It's definitely the most eastern of the Midwest, but it's also definitely NOT "East Coast".
@dan @ricci @dev they don't need to justify it further
@dan @dev how do I go back in time and delete someone else's post before they can make it
@ricci @dan @dev I love how even the person who posted the photo to this article is like "yea idk what's going on here"
@ricci Don't you administer this instance? Can't you just go change the post in the database to be something else? @dan @dev
@drmorr @dan @dev I dunno I can ban people but I don't know how to ban a pizza
@ricci @dan @dev well if you can't ban the pizza, sounds like the next best thing is to ban the person who posted the pizza.