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🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴 (🌈🦄)Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.
Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.
Exit Code 1@alice At first I read the last sentence as "a parasitic relationship" and I was like yeah that sounds about right
But also yes, all of this
@paranormal_distribution both are true 😮💨
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Darkas Vim@alice 100% Corporations are not people. They do not have rights. They should be politically neutral. We shouldn't have to practice social activism based upon where we buy plywood.
Honestly corporations shouldn't exist at all.
Nuwagaba Gift@Darkasvim
The governments benefit more from corporations than anyone else because the governments get huge taxes from those corporations and on addition to that the employees in those corporations are also taxed by the government. If the corporations are not to exist, would the governments allow that to happen?
The governments benefit more from corporations than anyone else because the governments get huge taxes from those corporations and on addition to that the employees in those corporations are also taxed by the government. If the corporations are not to exist, would the governments allow that to happen?
@nuwagaba2 Maybe in normal countries but here in Trumpistan corporations pay little taxes.
@Darkasvim
That's right. Corporations. Might pay less taxes but the employees within them are the ones who carry the heaviest tax burden . That's how it works in my own country. How will inequality be reduced if the ones with the biggest amounts of money pay less in taxes than those with small amounts?
That's right. Corporations. Might pay less taxes but the employees within them are the ones who carry the heaviest tax burden . That's how it works in my own country. How will inequality be reduced if the ones with the biggest amounts of money pay less in taxes than those with small amounts?
@nuwagaba2 It's like that here too, but corporations have many of the same rights as individuals as far as being able to make political donations and using their vast amounts of money to influence our elected officials.
@Darkasvim
Cool. A new system is still needed as the old one has failed. Can I share with you about my project?
Cool. A new system is still needed as the old one has failed. Can I share with you about my project?
MikeStok@Darkasvim @alice @mralancooper maybe they should exist, but be dissolved when their short term goal is achieved.
MeaningfulBits@MikeStok @Darkasvim @alice @mralancooper sorry our short term goal is infinite growth at all costs... /s
Levka@MikeStok @Darkasvim @alice @mralancooper
They should exist, but they should be owned by their workers. This system is already up and running. It just needs to scale up. Worker self-owned, worker self managed workplaces not only exist, but in most cases they’re thriving. They range in size from a single pizza joint run by a handful of hippies to a multi-million dollar, multi-national holding company.
See:
nojhan, Cassandre de l’analyse systémique@Darkasvim @alice The ownership is the key problem. If companies were owned by the workers who create their value, things would certainly be different.
Alexa Devreux-SwiftTime for all the corporations to be broken up
I AM BANKSY ☕ / 🗑🔥@alice
Unilever really GETS me, though.
Unilever really GETS me, though.
Сара Кварц 
@alice i feel like the so called "linux crowd" has fallen victim to that towards Valve, the fanatism is so strange its almost religious.
Matthew 
@sarahquartz You aren't the only one and I'm glad I am not alone. They're so parasocial with Gabe is so ridiculous, he doesn't even know them 💀
@alice
@alice
cR0w 🏴☠️@alice All Corporations Are Bullshit
Kallisti"Good" corporations?
With a cop, I guess if they're nice and seem somewhat anti-authoritarian, I understand why one would make that faulty assumption.
But how in the world could one ever mistake a corporation for "good"?
Rachel Rawlings@kallisti @alice There are definitely corporations that are "best of a bad lot," like Costco (pays employees well and gives decent healthcare) among big box stores and the various cosmetics companies that practice ethical sourcing and don't do animal testing. You know, the ones that are actually doing the bare minimum that every corporation should if they're allowed to exist at all.
Tzimisce Flesh@alice Fuck Valve.
Flipper 🐬🏳️🌈@alice Some are outright bad; some are not outright bad, but the best you're going to get is: totally uninterested in any of your concerns.
"Good" corporations would have peoples' interests aligned with their own. So, yes. All corporations are bastards.
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AprazethWe call their fans/enablers corpo's for plural and corpo for singular, right?
I get that it can be hard, due to nostalgia and what not to step out of those parasocial relationships. Yet you should
Because they didn't get there by playing fair all the way, and all the time. None have, none will.
Octavia Con Amore 
Succubard's Library@Aprazeth @alice honestly, brand loyalty feels weird though... I don't get what's hard about using corporations and their products as yools, either suited or unsuited to your current needs 
(including the need to do minimum harm)
corporations are machines created to make money, and havingparasocial relationships with them is odd 
@OctaviaConAmore
For most people is not the corporation they develop that with - it is with their products. Especially nostalgia.
The brand and type of cookies wr got when visiting our friends/family when we were a kid. The instant noodles that were the only thing people could afford during tough times, and so on.
That all said: if the only thing people can afford is corporation owned, and they need it for survival: do not feel pressured or shamed to change until safe to do so
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Jess👾@alice Sadly "no ethical consumption..."
Sure none of them are "good", but boy howdy are there layers of bad
ChloChloacaI always think of The Good Place when having this conversation with people...
There's actually nothing truly ethical when we live in a society like ours.
Kirtai 🏳️⚧️@alice
Publicly owned corporations are evil by default.
iirc there was a study where someone did a psychological study of corporations and concluded that all publicly owned ones are sociopaths/psychopaths.
Privately owned ones depend on the owner.
Pēteris Krišjānis@alice what I have learned that commercially driven entities no matter what are initial settings will lean towards greed, unless explicitly said otherwise.
Thus there can be no loyalty to something that is not a person and will change accordingly by the rules of greed and entity itself.
Greed simply generates vacuum of responsibility and empathy within organisation, and justifies and amplifies worst instincts of people of sociopathic nature.
Only exception is self organised workforce.
Thus there can be no loyalty to something that is not a person and will change accordingly by the rules of greed and entity itself.
Greed simply generates vacuum of responsibility and empathy within organisation, and justifies and amplifies worst instincts of people of sociopathic nature.
Only exception is self organised workforce.
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The Cyberwitch@alice support small businesses and creators and buy local whenever you can!
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