On GrapheneOS, one must download the Play Store of choice first in order to get apps. Wild land here.
#GrapheneOS
@rio standard behavior of #lineageOS aswell. The choice of your app store is a very personal decision. #eOS ships a more complete "applounge". Many hate it.
@Kurt @rio Why do they hate applounge? Asking as someone planning on getting eos.
@lukemartell @rio gettin /e/OS is not a one-step transition. Get a second phone. Try various setups. Keep the mission critical apps on your old phone. - applaunch has stability issues.
@Kurt @rio ah stability, I see, thanks. I've been running my stock android phone with play services disabled and everything important works fine.
@lukemartell @rio nice. How did you disable? Most phones run into trouble without play services. If you are really that hardcore, maybe lineageOS is for you. Less bloated.
@Kurt @rio you just go to the play services app and disable it in settings. I've only been doing it for a while to see what will work without play services which is most things except google apps.
@Kurt @rio even my banking app works without play services and without microg to replace it despite people saying it won't.

@lukemartell @Kurt @rio Applounge is basically a combination of f-droid and a front-end for the play store. I don't like that free software is mixed up with proprietary. You also can't uninstall the default system apps like applounge on /e/OS.

You may with to consider getting a device with iodéOS, it comes with f-droid and aurora store (an improved and privacy-respecting google play front-end) by default and any and all pre-installed apps can be removed. Which is as it should be.

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@brinerustle @Kurt @rio I'm getting a fairphone and that comes with e/os so I'll stick with that. I use Fdroid and also Accrescent and Aurora.
@Kurt First time I heard that /e/OS was bad was today and it was by GrapheneOS; claiming that /e/OS has a backdoor for the French Government while GrapheneOS doesn't.

@Kurt source: GrapheneOS Official Discord Server (emphasis by me)

GrapheneOS is being heavily targeted by the French state because we provide highly secure devices and won't include backdoors for law enforcement access. They're conflating us with companies selling closed source products using portions of our code. Both French state media and corporate media are publishing many stories attacking the GrapheneOS project based on false and unsubstantiated claims from French law enforcement. They've made a clear threat to seize our servers and arrest our developers if we do not cooperate by adding backdoors. Due to this, we're leaving France and leaving French service providers including OVH. We need substantial help from the community to push back against this across platforms. People malicious towards us are also using it as an opportunity to spread libel/harassment content targeting our team, raid our chat rooms and much more. /e/ and iodéOS are both based in France, and are both actively attacking GrapheneOS including spreading false narratives about it not being for regular people which helped to support the false narratives being propagated by French law enforcement. /e/ receives substantial government funding. Both are extremely non-private and insecure which is why France is targeting us while those get government funding. We need a lot more help than usual and we're sending our the first ever notification to everyone on the server because this is a particularly bad situation. If people help us, it will enable us to focus more on development again including releasing experimental Pixel 10 releases very soon.
Several of the initial articles, but there are now hundreds including French state-funded media coverage on radio, television and the web:
https://archive.is/UrlvK
https://archive.is/AhMsj
https://archive.is/FBc1U
Initial thread:
https://grapheneos.social/deck/@GrapheneOS/115575997104456188
Follow-up thread:
https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/115583866253016416
Thread from a French non-profit about the situation:
https://mamot.fr/@LaQuadrature/115581775965025042
Thread about the FBI and European law enforcement selling devices to criminals using GrapheneOS code:
https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/115589833471347871
Thread about how ANSSI (French national cybersecurity agency) contributed to GrapheneOS:
https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/115594002434998739
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtqJSGmuvxo
Due to direct threats from French law enforcement agencies based on false and unsubstantiated claims they're propagating about us, we're moving everything away from French providers (OVH) and server locations. We won't have any developers working in France either. GrapheneOS remains fully legal in France despite these authoritarian attacks by law enforcement, state media and corporate media supporting the state. GrapheneOS will continue working in France including our services... (rest omitted)

@rio Because GrapheneOS is designed to be minimal, F-Droid and Aurora Store are not recommended btw. Try Accrescent, Obtainium(plus App Verifier) and Google Play Store.
@rio I mean, that's... pretty standard? If you don't install GApps on LineageOS it's the same exact story
@[email protected] ¡Well, its my first time here! I thought it was kinda funny!​
@rio I wonder if you'll be able to get OsafuKeitai running on it. I wish I changed my device model before the trip last year, sadly I was too lazy and had device with locked bootloader/no root on me so I couldn't test.

(International models of Google Pixel can use OsafuKeitai just fine, there's a check in the app if device was sold on Japanese market. I literally just ran "sed" on devinfo partition which changes model ID to one corresponding to a Japanese model and it works. Downside is that I have global shutter sound in Android but I don't really care about it since it's not obnoxious
@[email protected] Unable to disable camera shutter is crazy but then again I guess it kinda makes sense at the same time...
I keep hearing a lot about this Osaifu Keitai functionality but I have never seen anyone use it in real life... most people in this countryside uses either cash or barcode payment like PayPay. I have a physical transit card as well (SUGOCA - basically a Kyusyu SUICA variant) so I don't know if the trouble of setting up osaifu keitai is worth it... I suppose I'll take a look when I have the energy to!
@rio why were u even looking for FUTO ? unrelated but still
@[email protected] Because it has one of the best Japanese input capability in the market today in 2026! Gboard sucks because it's eurocentric and has no support for Japanese dictionary imports, and the former best input for Japanese on an Android Device: Google 日本語入力, is discontinued.
FUTO is not only has full on-going support, but it's also very privacy minded too! With these reasons, picking FUTO as the first choice for Japanese input on a given mobile device is a no-brainer.

@rio fair but also i feel the need to point out that FUTO is a scam organization that does not actually finance projects beyond what makes them able to brag about doing so , and also they are associated with known hateful people and projects

im not judging u ofc i just thougjt id let u know , u do u ofc !! ^^

@[email protected] In my experience, FUTO is a good organization and I do not believe FUTO is associated with any hateful people and projects at all. I have contributed to the FUTO project in the past and they were all very nice to me.
I also believe that donators has the right to brag (Have you seen my pinned posts?).
@[email protected] Heck, they brought literal Japanese input for free in the Open Source world.
You may not like FUTO, but as a Japanese language user, I am extremely grateful for their work because without them, I literally cannot type my own language without submitting to Gboard.
@rio ok there is no point of arguing with you then , i guess.
What's up with FUTO?

@[email protected] holy hellhole drama... where in the world wide web do you find these things... fine, I'll take a read. Thank you for the link.