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Adam SmithIncredible post. His sister is at university, her dissertation is in Google Docs - all locked out.
Huubje
deBaer@adamndsmith The whole Internet has turned into such a complete shitshow. Hopefully, more and more people will start to realize that local files stored on computers and local backups exist before it's too late.
ArneBab@adamndsmith "In Front of Gemini Live" -- doesnโt that mean that Google is at fault?
It was their interactive tool, after all, which fakes personal interaction and transfers data to unknown places but did not stop before it became criminal activity.
contrasocialIt probably would not be Google's fault in court because Google has a lot of money.
MeaningfulBits@contrasocial @ArneBab @adamndsmith buried deep in the user agreement is a no fault masturbation clause absolving them AND giving them the right to use said video to train #ai.
I wish this was a joke...
Ed Neal@ArneBab @adamndsmith definitely some sort of tool interaction going onโฆ
Anne Delong@EdtheChem @ArneBab @adamndsmith
Another good reason to keep your data local, or at least have a local backup. Otherswise, you are giving up security and control for convenience.
If the family didn't clue into this, you'd think that the accountant and the daughter's thesis advisor would say something.
SeaGoogle needed to collect the footage for potential profit first.
vampirdaddy
NormanDunbar@vampirdaddy @adamndsmith Do you happen to know when "World Remember to Test Your Backups" day is please? ๐ค
Billy Smith@NormanDunbar @vampirdaddy @adamndsmith
It's always today! :D
Andrew@NormanDunbar @BillySmith @vampirdaddy @adamndsmith It is always yesterday. People regularly regret not testing their so called backups.
woe2you@vampirdaddy @adamndsmith I didn't even know that was a thing. On any given day it's always about 20 different World $thing Days, it's impossible to keep track.
Electropict
not a martian, honest@electropict @adamndsmith "I had it ready, but AI got to it and now it's all wrong"
C++ Wage SlaveI'd love to be able to boost this. Would you mind pasting the text from Reddit into the image alt text, please?
@CppGuy done!
Thanks, Adam. Boosted.
derralf@adamndsmith If the #bofh (this is: Bastard Operator from Hell) stories told us one thing since the 80s: If your data is residing on the computer of someone else (be it controlled by an slightly evil sysop or an slightly more evil corporation) bad things can happen.
Its sad that this lesson has to be learned again and again...
Its sad that this lesson has to be learned again and again...
Clutha๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐ธ๐ฉ๐บ๐ฆ@derralf @adamndsmith
Our guru on offshore oil & gas platforms for all things computerwise advised us 30 years ago that emails were as secure as a postcard.
Our guru on offshore oil & gas platforms for all things computerwise advised us 30 years ago that emails were as secure as a postcard.
Andreas Lindholm@adamndsmith Please let this be an April 1 joke.
Jack Yan (็็ตๆฉ)@andreaslindholm @adamndsmith It could be. OP gives the order of events in a comment, saying they each lost access to their accounts one by one, then received an email with the CSAM allegation. How did they receive it, when OP made it clear that they couldnสผt access their Gmail accounts?
iam-py-test@jackyan The notice was probably sent to whatever account is setup as the recovery email for the gmail account, which might not be a gmail and which is separate from the email which is locked out.
@iampytest1 The OP says their recovery emails were on Gmail and they were also locked out of those.
@jackyan oh, than that's weird and a suspicious inconsistency
@iampytest1 The claim about their Proton Mail address getting flagged was also strange. Iสผve never heard of this happening. I think itสผs possible, but it is a bit suspicious.
@jackyan I use Proton and can't recall ever having issues with it being flagged as suspicious, though I haven't ever used it for business or banking.
I also find it weird that their accounts weren't all flagged at once, if I read it correctly, but gradually. Granted I luckily haven't had to deal with this type of issue before (I've been locked out of accounts of course but not for this reason and have never setup my accounts like the OOP).
Its not impossible OOP's story is true but they got some elements wrong or lied about some parts which were embarrassing (or the kid lied about some aspects of what happened).
@iampytest1 I agree, itโs entirely believable and I can see it happening, albeit with some changes in the facts. Errare est humanum so they could have got some info wrong.
One theory in the threads was that the son went from account to account, and as he did so, they each got flagged, but I donโt think it was OP who said that.
Like you I donโt have a set-up like the OPโsโand am very thankful that I donโt!
One theory in the threads was that the son went from account to account, and as he did so, they each got flagged, but I donโt think it was OP who said that.
Like you I donโt have a set-up like the OPโsโand am very thankful that I donโt!
HTPC NZ@adamndsmith Captain Gemini is at the wheel... But hey Copilot is the biggest threat right... At least that's what's constantly posted around here in the fediverse when it is very obvious which one of the two will become the ubiquitous BS generator for the masses...
Leeloo@htpcnz @adamndsmith
I'm pretty sure they are both the same garbage. How did you get the impression that Gemini is a lesser threat than CoPilot?
I'm pretty sure they are both the same garbage. How did you get the impression that Gemini is a lesser threat than CoPilot?
ancilevien74@adamndsmith Is it real or a ๐ ?
(Some time ago, someone was booted out of his google account because he used g. drive to share a medical photo of his young child with their physician. So I'm inclined to think this is legit, but, it's April 1st ๐๐คฌ.)
(Some time ago, someone was booted out of his google account because he used g. drive to share a medical photo of his young child with their physician. So I'm inclined to think this is legit, but, it's April 1st ๐๐คฌ.)
@ancilevien74 @adamndsmith
I got booted off FB with no explanation and no appeal, possibly due to industrial language re Scottish Independence debate.
Led me to Mastodon so Zuckerberg did me an enormous good turn.
I got booted off FB with no explanation and no appeal, possibly due to industrial language re Scottish Independence debate.
Led me to Mastodon so Zuckerberg did me an enormous good turn.
Netraven@Clutha @ancilevien74 @[email protected] big mastodon paid the zuck to boot you off so they could have you all for themselves!
tastyraspberry
Eh?!?@adamndsmith
If it's not an #April1st fish, it'd be a glorious way to celebrate yesterday's #WorldBackupDay
If it's not an #April1st fish, it'd be a glorious way to celebrate yesterday's #WorldBackupDay
not ch1c@adamndsmith forever amazed people put so much trust into the company with the baby-talk name, no customer focus and a passion for graphic design that once openly rescinded its pledge not to be evil
Kevin@cthon1c @adamndsmith baby-talk name? I'm no fan but isn't it named after mispellings of googol?
@kevin @adamndsmith I think you answered your own question there
teacher_rick ๐ช๐บIncredible post. His sister is at university, her dissertation is in Google Docs - all locked out.
Subreddit: r/LegalAdviceUK โข 52m ago User: NearbyNeck3162 My son pleasured himself in front of Gemini Live with the camera. My entire family have had our Google accounts banned.
PLEASE PEOPLE DO NOT TRUST GOOGLE IN ANY WAY.
Keeping everything important on google or any other single provider is crazy.
ALWAYS BACKUP IMPORTANT DATA
ON MULTIPLE DEVICES AND KEEP THEM WELL SEPARATED.
Ariaflame@Kerplunk @adamndsmith Rule 1 for any research writing. KEEP BACKUPS.
HarriettMB@adamndsmith Sheโs not even attributing any blame or responsibility on her son, or taking any for herself in not explicating him about his behaviours on a public site. #karma
Toot Terrorist@adamndsmith Not the first kid to destroy his father's business by being a wanker.
Stuart Celarier โ๐@twit_terrorist @adamndsmith Excellent comeback! Er, maybe I should rephrase that.
malte@adamndsmith Truly amazing and bookmarked. I wonder if it is stories like these that ultimately will convince the people that have locked up their entire lives in Google's servers like this person.
Marc Geffen@adamndsmith Legally speaking, Google accounts are a revocable license to use its platform. Be sure to back up all your data onto storage-able mediums or other platforms, you donโt โownโ anything in the cloud!
Leela Torres@adamndsmith
Lex Big Tech is great. Just ask the International Criminal Court
Lex Big Tech is great. Just ask the International Criminal Court
TrimTab ๐บ๐ฆ@adamndsmith
Yet another family sleeping with leopards in their house. It's always a shock to discover they eat faces. And the AI snitch surveiling the wanking son is a delightful plot twist in this tale...
At this point in human history i have lost sympathy for those who put their personal data into the revocable trust of strangers, and then act shocked when access is revoked. Sorry, not sorry.
Max mal Richtig ๐ฑ๐ฒ@adamndsmith Just to throw some thoughts around...
In such a case, would it work to request your data under GDPR article 15? (At least if you live in the EU.) ๐ค
@maxmalrichtig @adamndsmith Scotland is, alas, not part of the EU.
@ariaflame Correct. But I am not searching a solution for this SPECIFIC case, as the post is most likely an April's fools joke anyway. But given the hypothetical situation, would such a request work (as long as you live in EU)?
@Clutha Hope for a speedy process! We miss you! ๐ฅ
Retro Gerry@ariaflame @maxmalrichtig @adamndsmith britian has its own GDPR, innovativbely called the "UK GDPR" it would cover this sort of thing. (if it were real)
the ICO has more info if you want to have a deep dive into it.
https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/uk-gdpr-guidance-and-resources/
tyil@adamndsmith Not the first time such a thing happens. Google is notoriously bad in "customer service". Wonder if that has anything to do with this not being the first time, and people continuing to put their entire digital life in their hands regardless.
Graeme ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ@adamndsmith Beyond me why anyone would use any of these services. Keep it local and backed up, and if you want to use a cloud service, host your own, or use a trusted provider you know...
das-g@pa27 Well, it seems they knew a provider called "Google" and trusted that provider.